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Postby Angelito » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:24 pm

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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Jedi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:33 pm

I'd make 3 changes, keep the rest of the team the same.
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Bellerin - Mustafi - Sokratis - Lichtsteiner
Guendouzi - Torreira
Ozil
Mkhitaryan - Lacazette - Aubameyang


1) If Ramsey's going to keep playing like he's a striker might as well drop him for Lacazette as he's better at it.
2) Cech defended well but if we're going to play from the back his feet just aren't good enough.
3) I hope i don't need to explain why I'd drop Xhaka.
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Pudpop » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:36 pm

Jedieurokrem wrote:I'd make 3 changes, keep the rest of the team the same.
Leno
Bellerin - Mustafi - Sokratis - Lichtsteiner
Guendouzi - Torreira
Ozil
Mkhitaryan - Lacazette - Aubameyang


1) If Ramsey's going to keep playing like a striker might as well drop him for Lacazette as he's better at the position.
2) Cech defended well but if we're going to play from the back his feet just aren't good enough.
3) I hope i don't need to explain why I'd drop Xhaka.
Agree. This should be our starting lineup next week. There's an argument for Ramsey over one of Ozil/Micky but i think this is the one
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Mustafi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:40 pm

Cech
Lichsteiner - Mustafi - Papa - Monreal
Torreira - Guendouzi - Ramsey
Özil
Lacazette - Aubameyang

Özil should be played as a Nr. 10.
Cech was surprisingly good and deserves to start next game. Hopefully Monreal will be fit for this game.
Lichsteiner ahead of Bellerin makes sense imo.
Only problem with this line up is the lack of width in it, but our squad is unbalanced and I don't see much better options.
Ramsey, Torreira and Guendouzi have strong engines and could cover the distances needed .
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Santi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:42 pm

Ramsey and Ozil get in each others way when they both play centrally.
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:43 pm

... Lacazette Aubameyang Mkhi

... Ramsey Guendouzi Torreira

Monreal Sokratis Mustafi Bellerin/LS

.........................Leno.......................
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Santi » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:43 pm

Pudpop wrote:
Jedieurokrem wrote:I'd make 3 changes, keep the rest of the team the same.
Leno
Bellerin - Mustafi - Sokratis - Lichtsteiner
Guendouzi - Torreira
Ozil
Mkhitaryan - Lacazette - Aubameyang


1) If Ramsey's going to keep playing like a striker might as well drop him for Lacazette as he's better at the position.
2) Cech defended well but if we're going to play from the back his feet just aren't good enough.
3) I hope i don't need to explain why I'd drop Xhaka.
Agree. This should be our starting lineup next week. There's an argument for Ramsey over one of Ozil/Micky but i think this is the one



Would put Ramsey in place of Ozil, his pressing today was one of our best traits in the first half and he kept leading the charge, in that respect he is a good and useful player, on the ball less so (you know what I think already).
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Angelito » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:49 pm

Leno
Bellerin - Sokratis - Mustafi - Lichtsteiner
Guendouzi - Torreira
Mkhitaryan - Ozil - Aubameyang
Lacazette


Basically Jedie's line-up.
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Mike Dean » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:51 pm

Angelito wrote:
Leno
Bellerin - Sokratis - Mustafi - Lichtsteiner
Guendouzi - Torreira
Mkhitaryan - Ozil - Aubameyang
Lacazette


Basically Jedie's line-up.
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Sims » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:52 pm

Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:... Lacazette Aubameyang Mkhi

... Ramsey Guendouzi Torreira

Monreal Sokratis Mustafi Bellerin/LS

.........................Leno.......................


Micki put in a 1/10 and u want to play him ahead of Özil?

No matter what line up we put out we’re losing
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:54 pm

Sims wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:... Lacazette Aubameyang Mkhi

... Ramsey Guendouzi Torreira

Monreal Sokratis Mustafi Bellerin/LS

.........................Leno.......................


Micki put in a 1/10 and u want to play him ahead of Özil?

No matter what line up we put out we’re losing


I just feel he is a bit better defensively out wide, not by a big margin. In an ideal world we would have Dembele
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Pudpop » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:55 pm

Sims wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:... Lacazette Aubameyang Mkhi

... Ramsey Guendouzi Torreira

Monreal Sokratis Mustafi Bellerin/LS

.........................Leno.......................


Micki put in a 1/10 and u want to play him ahead of Özil?

No matter what line up we put out we’re losing
Loool guess we should start preparing for the championship then init?
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:58 pm

As i said in the other thread Özil will not struggle out wide against lesser teams. Teams like City put intense pressure on the flanks. Same applies to Mkhi. Unai Emery prefers a 4-3-3 going by majority of preseason.
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Pudpop » Sun Aug 12, 2018 6:59 pm

Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:As i said in the other thread Özil will not struggle out wide against lesser teams. Teams like City put intense pressure on the flanks. Same applies to Mkhi. Unai Emery prefers a 4-3-3 going by majority of preseason.
Yeah but he also has a history of 4231 and we have 2 players who thrive in a 4231 and struggle in a 433. If he chooses 433 then fair play but then we need to sell one of our 10s and buy a winger.

Until then 4231 fits our attackers best
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Re: 18/08/18 | Chelsea vs Arsenal | Premier League

Postby Arsenal~Fanatic » Sun Aug 12, 2018 7:02 pm

Pudpop wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:As i said in the other thread Özil will not struggle out wide against lesser teams. Teams like City put intense pressure on the flanks. Same applies to Mkhi. Unai Emery prefers a 4-3-3 going by majority of preseason.
Yeah but he also has a history of 4231 and we have 2 players who thrive in a 4231 and struggle in a 433. If he chooses 433 then fair play but then we need to sell one of our 10s and buy a winger.

Until then 4231 fits our attackers best

What if after the Chelsea game we start making 4-3-3 work even without out and out wide players? Let us see how it goes after Chelsea game. We all including myself are jumping the gun before seeing how it works in normal games.
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