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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby theHotHead » Thu Nov 25, 2021 12:14 pm

Reiss wrote:Neither Xhaka or Matteo are good enough or warrant the stress they constantly give us.

Both should be gone and replaced.

What constant stress? You lot are some drama queens!
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby Reiss » Thu Nov 25, 2021 2:23 pm

Xhaka is utter dogsh*t. That's the stress with him.

Matteo has an attitude problem and is difficult to manage. That's the stress with him.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby thebigbangtheo » Thu Nov 25, 2021 3:03 pm

I think that we have reached saturation point regards this situation and the sooner that this whole escapade is brought to an end with a permanent transfer out of the Emirates the better now for all parties.

I liked Guendouzi's style of play harnessed to the potential on show of becoming a top notch midfielder for years to come, so as such no we will not be seeing the return on our investment in him that at one point promised quite a lucrative yeild.

The core of my own personal disappointment with the whole sorry saga lies in not having the opportunity to have witnessed what could have been developed from a midfield collective of Saka, Odegaard, Guendouzi, Lokonga and Smith-Rowe upon a season of playing, training and enduring experiences together, but se le vie.

Beyond having his brothers as his agent, to me the biggest mistake Anelka made in his career was leaving for Real Madrid two, possibly three years too soon for his own development and into the bargain consign only to the imagination of those that dared to dream, the attacking triumvirate of Henry, Anelka and Bergkamp that Wenger was on the verge of assembling.

Foolish young men with ego's and illusions of self worth to outweigh the volume of their talent if not their bank balances, often remain in the limelight at the end of their playing careers, but not necessarily in the fashion of a David Beckham for instance, but more held up by manager's and coaches everywhere never mind the career advisors all the academies have as standard practice now, as an example of poor and rash judgement that could ultimately derail a good career or prevent it from ever maximising its full potential.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Thu Nov 25, 2021 5:20 pm

He's gone. Marseille have a loan + buy obligation for a piddling 10m EUR which they can afford. He's a starter there already. It's going to happen.

Not sure why he keeps coming up. Several other Sven and Raul signings have faced similar fates at Arsenal. He just isn't wanted by the current regime. It's as simple as that.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby theHotHead » Thu Nov 25, 2021 6:39 pm

Reiss wrote:Xhaka is utter dogsh*t. That's the stress with him.

Matteo has an attitude problem and is difficult to manage. That's the stress with him.

How?? He played perfectly fine for Emery and was probably the fourth most consistent player, after Auba, Leno and Saka.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby swipe right » Wed Dec 22, 2021 11:59 am

Guendozi confirms that Marseille option to buy triggers as soon as the season is over and they are confirmed for Ligue One status. So he’s gone then.

Still can’t understand what he did to be kicked out of the club. Surely the bust up with Maupay can’t have been the reason ?
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby jayramfootball » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:08 pm

swipe right wrote:Guendozi confirms that Marseille option to buy triggers as soon as the season is over and they are confirmed for Ligue One status. So he’s gone then.

Still can’t understand what he did to be kicked out of the club. Surely the bust up with Maupay can’t have been the reason ?



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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby Phil71 » Wed Dec 22, 2021 12:09 pm

Bye
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby Salibatelli » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:09 pm

Be a good buy for Marseille for peanuts, think they’ll be quite happy as he’s been very good for them.

He’s probably worth nearly 3 times what they’ll be paying for him.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby jayramfootball » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:26 pm

Salibatelli wrote:Be a good buy for Marseille for peanuts, think they’ll be quite happy as he’s been very good for them.

He’s probably worth nearly 3 times what they’ll be paying for him.


Don't think Ozim.
He's worth about £10m
How much are we getting for him?

I heard the buy option was £9m and we've already had about £1m from the loan fee.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby swipe right » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:30 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:Be a good buy for Marseille for peanuts, think they’ll be quite happy as he’s been very good for them.

He’s probably worth nearly 3 times what they’ll be paying for him.


Don't think Ozim.
He's worth about £10m
How much are we getting for him?

I heard the buy option was £9m and we've already had about £1m from the loan fee.

He’s comfortably the best CM on our payroll. Just got a hat trick of assists for Marseille. Kind of crazy that we finally get a good b2b and we lose him.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby jayramfootball » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:32 pm

swipe right wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:Be a good buy for Marseille for peanuts, think they’ll be quite happy as he’s been very good for them.

He’s probably worth nearly 3 times what they’ll be paying for him.


Don't think Ozim.
He's worth about £10m
How much are we getting for him?

I heard the buy option was £9m and we've already had about £1m from the loan fee.

He’s comfortably the best CM on our payroll. Just got a hat trick of assists for Marseille. Kind of crazy that we finally get a good b2b and we lose him.


:rofll:

Is that the cup game against Cannet Rocheville, in the 5th tier of French football, that Marseille were LOSING at home in until the mighty Cannet Rocheville had a man sent off?
Yeah - he's certainly hit the big time :biggrin:

Bye Matteo.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby theHotHead » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:38 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:Be a good buy for Marseille for peanuts, think they’ll be quite happy as he’s been very good for them.

He’s probably worth nearly 3 times what they’ll be paying for him.


Don't think Ozim.
He's worth about £10m
How much are we getting for him?

I heard the buy option was £9m and we've already had about £1m from the loan fee.

That can't be right, a stellar season in France he must be worth at least £25-30m
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby jayramfootball » Wed Dec 22, 2021 1:43 pm

theHotHead wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Salibatelli wrote:Be a good buy for Marseille for peanuts, think they’ll be quite happy as he’s been very good for them.

He’s probably worth nearly 3 times what they’ll be paying for him.


Don't think Ozim.
He's worth about £10m
How much are we getting for him?

I heard the buy option was £9m and we've already had about £1m from the loan fee.

That can't be right, a stellar season in France he must be worth at least £25-30m


He isn't having a stellar season.
3 goals and 3 assist in the league - in France.
Chance creation is low at less than 1 per game
Quality of the chances he is creating is low at just 0.09 xG per game.
That is one of the worst in the entire squad of midfield players at Marseille

Tackles per game is 1.1
Interceptions 0.2

He's been dispossessed or messed up his touch more often than he has won the ball.

To call that 'stellar' is a bad joke.

£9m seems reasonable.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby Santi » Wed Dec 22, 2021 2:08 pm

He was also pissing half the Marseille squad off with his antics according to reports.

He's just a nightmare and be glad to get rid of him. There is a decent player in there but no better than Lokonga imo.
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