The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Talk about the upcoming World Cup which takes place June 14th 2018.

Who will win the 2018 World Cup?

Poll ended at Tue Mar 13, 2018 5:58 pm

Argentina
3
18%
Belgium
1
6%
Brazil
1
6%
England
2
12%
France
2
12%
Germany
4
24%
Portugal
1
6%
Russia
0
No votes
Spain
2
12%
Other
1
6%
 
Total votes : 17

Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Rockape » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:19 am

matelot wrote:As an English fan I was a bit disappointed with our performance against Colombia. Maradonna was correct despite the biased commentary on the game,the ref was bent towards us and nine times out of ten we would be out..


Really?? If there had been a ref with any level of backbone on the pitch, then the Colombians would have had at least three players sent off! Shocking and systematic cheating, that reduced the game to a farce.
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby starmandb » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:05 pm

Angelito wrote:Just realized that France doesn't have a single Arsenal player in its squad. Must be a first since Wenger joined Arsenal.

If France do win the WC, I'd be gutted for Koscielny. :( He deserved to be there.

The only Gunner left in the WC is Welbeck. :rolleyes:

2002 - Soon-to-be-Gunner, Gilberto in the WC Final
2006 - Henry in the WC Final
2010 - van Persie, Cesc in the WC Final
2014 - Ozil, Per, Pod in the WC Final
2018 - Save us, Lucas Torreira?

The last time France had no arsenal player in the squad was the November internationals of 2014
Giroud had broken an ankle at Everton and koscielny had groin problems. Sagna was involved but was at Man city by then as was lacazette but he was still at Marseille
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Santi » Fri Jul 06, 2018 8:52 pm

Lyon *
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby starmandb » Fri Jul 06, 2018 9:40 pm

Santi wrote:Lyon *

Oh yes
Sorry mate my mistake
I was getting my lacazette and Bobby pires mixed up
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Santi » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:00 am

The team going first in a penalty shootout have now lost all three penalty shootouts at the 2018 World Cup.


So much for needing this ABBA shite :dontknow:
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Angelito » Sat Jul 07, 2018 10:11 am

Santi wrote:The team going first in a penalty shootout have now lost all three penalty shootouts at the 2018 World Cup.


So much for needing this ABBA shite :dontknow:


..., which rarely happened before.

The only thing predictable about 2018 World Cup has been France in the SFs. This World Cup has been full of surprises.

I do expect normal proceedings to commence from 2022.

Regardless, if someone told you that Brazil, Germany, Argentina, and Spain - ALL of 'em would not be in the SFs before the start of WC... Yeah. ;)

Don't really think a whole lot about ABBA tbh. Problem with ABBA is that if the first taker misses, then you may find yourself 0-2 down instantly. That fucks up the minds of the players under such pressure.

Keep it as it is. After 120 mins of footy, winning the coin toss should have some benefits.
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Angelito » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:18 am

Luis Suarez's Uruguay have won the World Cup twice, so why do they have four gold stars above their crest?

- FIFA allow countries to add a star to their crest if they win the World Cup
- Uruguay have two trophies to their name but four stars on their badge
- England have one star after victory at Wembley in 1966
- Club sides including Nottingham Forest and Juventus also wear stars

As Luis Suarez celebrated the goals that vanquished England on Thursday evening, the eagle-eyed among you may have noticed that the Uruguay crest on his shirt has four gold stars above it.

Surely that can’t be right? We all know that Uruguay have only won the World Cup on two occasions, so surely they’ve stitched on a couple more on without really being entitled to them?

After all, in FIFA’s equipment regulations, section 18.2 states: ‘Those Member Associations that have won the FIFA World Cup may put a symbol on the playing shirt representing this accomplishment and the number of times won.’

And all the other nations have the correct amount - Brazil, of course, have their five stars; Italy have four; Germany three; Argentina two and England, France and Spain one apiece.

It turns out that Uruguay’s badge is a bit of an anomaly, but not an unjustified one.

Yes, they did win the World Cup in 1930 and 1950, as we all know, but they were twice world champions before that competition had even got off the ground.

That’s because the Olympic Games - won by Uruguay in 1924 and 1928 - were officially recognised as the FIFA world championships before the World Cup as we now know it was founded in 1930.

Back in 1914, Jules Rimet, the third President of the governing body and the man after whom the first World Cup trophy was named, declared: ‘Under the condition that the Olympic Football tournament be organized in agreement with FIFA rules, this competition will be recognised as a FIFA World Championship.’

Their first effort to organise this in 1920 ended in farce when Czechoslovakia walked off the field in protest in the final against Belgium, but they had greater luck four years later in Paris.

With more and more amateur players starting to turn professional, FIFA exploited a loophole in the rules of the strictly-amateur Olympic Movement so the best teams in the world could compete.

The players would take part and technically be considered ‘amateurs’ by the International Olympic Committee as long as their own country’s Football Association compensated them for missing work.

The Official History of FIFA states that the winners of these tournaments in 1924 and 1928 were therefore considered the official world champions.

Uruguay were the best on the planet at the time and racked up 17 goals in four matches on their way to the gold medal match, where Switzerland were rolled over 3-0.

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Four years later, in Amsterdam, they defeated neighbours Argentina in a replay to make it back-to-back wins and secure a second gold star.

The Olympic tournaments proved that a world football championship could be successfully staged and Jules Rimet soon moved to a grander vision - the World Cup.

Uruguay proved quite good at that too, beating Argentina 4-2 in the 1930 final, and then stunning Brazil in the Maracana in 1950.

So when FIFA revised its constitution in 1950, they formally recognised that Uruguay were four-time world champions. The badge, they will definitely feel, has been stuck with four stars for far too long.

Dozens of clubs around the world incorporate stars into their crests to represent achievements.

Egypt, for example, can wear seven stars for each of their Africa Cup of Nations victories; Cameroon and Ghana wear four, while Zambia proudly marked their maiden win in 2012 with the symbol. Japan have a commemorative shirt with four stars for their Asian Cup triumphs.

In England, Nottingham Forest wear two stars above their crest to mark back-to-back European Cup wins in 1979 and 1980. Aston Villa worked in a silver star to their badge to symbolise their success in 1982.

The other Football League sides with stars are Bury (two for their titles in 1900 and 1903), Huddersfield (first team to win three league titles in a row between 1924 and 1926) and Ipswich (their three major trophies - league title in 1962, FA Cup in 1978 and UEFA Cup in 1981).

Other clubs take it to another level - Rangers wear five, each star representing 10 Scottish titles. Juventus, meanwhile, gained their third star with a 30th Scudetto last season.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/worldc ... crest.html


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Incredible.

Had no idea that 1924 and 1928 football competition in the Olympics were FIFA-governed World Championships, therefore, World Cup equivalents.

Brazil ~ 5
Germany ~ 4
Uruguay ~ 4

Changes the dynamics and is a symbol of Uruguay's dominance in the early World Cup years. They'd have probably won the next two (34 and 38) too if they had participated in those world cups.

Meanwhile, Argentina confirmed serial losers in finals. Have lost 4 WC Finals ffs. :biggrin: :crybaby:
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Ach » Tue Jul 10, 2018 11:25 am

Yeah the 30s. Such good times. Arsenal the best club side in the world by a mile and had European Cup/CL existed back then we'd have won it a few times.
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Santi » Tue Jul 10, 2018 6:46 pm

Why were Uruguay so good though? Never really looked into it or understood it, seems so random that such a small nation would be comfortably the best for a period of ~20 years. Then be pretty much irrelevant (ok couple of 4th places) for 60 years :dontknow:
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Angelito » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:20 pm

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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Zenith » Tue Jul 10, 2018 9:40 pm

I've said it before, ahead of Hungary, Czechoslovakia and the Netherlands, Uruguay are the most successful footballing nation of all time relative to population.

It's incredible what these countries have achieved during international tournaments, despite being relatively small in population.
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Losmeister » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:21 am

Angelito wrote:

talked about with my wife many times, he's a true gentleman.... intelligent, thoughtful, driven , analytically astute, fotballer guy.. respect :hail:
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby Losmeister » Thu Jul 12, 2018 12:22 am

Zenith wrote:I've said it before, ahead of Hungary, Czechoslovakia and the Netherlands, Uruguay are the most successful footballing nation of all time relative to population.

It's incredible what these countries have achieved during international tournaments, despite being relatively small in population.


and now the croats! :hail: respect
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby LMAO » Thu Jul 12, 2018 1:59 am

Zenith wrote:I've said it before, ahead of Hungary, Czechoslovakia and the Netherlands, Uruguay are the most successful footballing nation of all time relative to population.

It's incredible what these countries have achieved in international tournaments, despite being relatively small in population.


It would've been incredible to be alive for the Aranycsapat. Too bad Hungarian football is shit these days.

Also, screw the people saying Pulisic made the wrong decision. He has no ties to Croatia other than a grandparent being born there. I can imagine him quietly rooting for them, but that's it. The guy is American through and through, and will be massively celebrated in 2026.
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Re: The FIFA 2018 World Cup thread

Postby ToMLord » Fri Jul 13, 2018 3:49 pm

I support France, but who do you think will be the champion?
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