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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby StLGooner » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:14 pm

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Look at the likes of Torreira and Cazorla, players that did not cost anywhere near top dollar but consistently perform(ed) at 6 or 7 out of 10. The idea that we need to buy top player in world football type CMs to improve upon Ramsey is a bloody joke!


What is a bloody joke is the fact that no one is saying Rambo is the best midfielder available, but we actually have him and if we suffer any kind of injury crisis, then he's well able to step into the breach. We know Ozil goes missing for weeks on end and unfortunately there are a lot of clubs out there with more money than us that will snap up a quality midfielder when they become available.

So its the old adage....a bird in the hand etc. Sure, when we have signed a complete midfielder, let him go, but frankly at the moment I'm more concerned that Iwobi is still getting picked regularly.



I think that was all obvious though. We know we'd have to replace him. Don't think anyone was just willing to let him go and not get anyone else.

Agree with you on the Iwobi thing though. Still not sure what peeps see in him.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby UFGN » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:18 pm

I'll tell you what's going on here

People have got so used to mediocrity that they don't understand that players we've had for years were part of the problem

That isn't automatically the case but certainly after Emery has had a chance to assess Ramsey and decided he's not bothered about him leaving, you have to concede that that is his call.

Also, don't judge Emery and the new contract/recruitment team by Wenger's failures. We all know what the team needs, so far since January there has been huge progress with regards recruitment.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby SuperJackyWilshere » Tue Nov 20, 2018 6:22 pm

I. AM. CRYING :rofll: :rofll: :rofll: :rofll:

I'm sure the club read this forum at times.

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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Sims » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:00 pm

They’ll put Mesut in his place if Rambo leaves to United

They’ll keep Rambo if he moves abroad imo
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby theHotHead » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:05 pm

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theHotHead wrote:The argument that to improve on Ramsey we need to buy a top quality replacement is absurd!! That would be the case if Ramsey was a steady 6/7 out of 10 and poor performances were 5 out of 10. But in reality Ramsey's average performances are a 5 out of 10 rising to the odd 8 out of 10 and falling to far more frequent 4 and 3 out of 10s.

Look at the likes of Torreira and Cazorla, players that did not cost anywhere near top dollar but consistently perform(ed) at 6 or 7 out of 10. The idea that we need to buy top player in world football type CMs to improve upon Ramsey is a bloody joke!

Ramsey was better than Caorla ever was so not sure about that

I guess pretty passing>goals is infectuous on here

Firstly Ramsey was only better than Cazorla for 18 months where his level was a consistent 7-8 out of 10. Cazorla was consistently 6-7 out of 10 every season. Which brings me on to the next section, pretty passing, you show a remarkable inability to understand exactly what Cazorla did for the team, he was the glue of the team, the quarterback, he picked up the ball from defence and brought it forward to the strikers, he relieved pressure such was his quality on the ball.

Cazorla was able to play at a high level for a far longer period of time consistently than Ramsey. Ramsey isn't fit to tie Cazorla's laces!
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Ach » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:12 pm

theHotHead wrote:
Ach wrote:
theHotHead wrote:The argument that to improve on Ramsey we need to buy a top quality replacement is absurd!! That would be the case if Ramsey was a steady 6/7 out of 10 and poor performances were 5 out of 10. But in reality Ramsey's average performances are a 5 out of 10 rising to the odd 8 out of 10 and falling to far more frequent 4 and 3 out of 10s.

Look at the likes of Torreira and Cazorla, players that did not cost anywhere near top dollar but consistently perform(ed) at 6 or 7 out of 10. The idea that we need to buy top player in world football type CMs to improve upon Ramsey is a bloody joke!

Ramsey was better than Caorla ever was so not sure about that

I guess pretty passing>goals is infectuous on here

Firstly Ramsey was only better than Cazorla for 18 months where his level was a consistent 7-8 out of 10. Cazorla was consistently 6-7 out of 10 every season. Which brings me on to the next section, pretty passing, you show a remarkable inability to understand exactly what Cazorla did for the team, he was the glue of the team, the quarterback, he picked up the ball from defence and brought it forward to the strikers, he relieved pressure such was his quality on the ball.

Cazorla was able to play at a high level for a far longer period of time consistently than Ramsey. Ramsey isn't fit to tie Cazorla's laces!


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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Santi » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:23 pm

he's absolutely wank, be better off with 1 less player than having this t0sser on the books any longer.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Ach » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:25 pm

Santi wrote:he's absolutely wank, be better off with 1 less player than having this t0sser on the books any longer.

He already gone to Villarreal mate
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Marsbar100 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:42 pm

Santi wrote:he's absolutely wank, be better off with 1 less player than having this t0sser on the books any longer.

Did you see us last week against wolves without him, we was awful and was taking a L without him, that game is concrete proof he isn't the problem, not saying he is the solution and that if he started we would have won or even played well, the reality is the problems at the club are far bigger than if one player starts or doesn't start.

On Ramsey specifically, he is a very good player if he wasn't he wouldn't be as it looks like going to Bayern, in a more balanced set up with more quality players I am sure he will be fine when called upon.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby SuperJackyWilshere » Tue Nov 20, 2018 9:48 pm

Marsbar100 wrote:
Santi wrote:he's absolutely wank, be better off with 1 less player than having this t0sser on the books any longer.

Did you see us last week against wolves without him, we was awful and was taking a L without him, that game is concrete proof he isn't the problem, not saying he is the solution and that if he started we would have won or even played well, the reality is the problems at the club are far bigger than if one player starts or doesn't start.

On Ramsey specifically, he is a very good player if he wasn't he wouldn't be as it looks like going to Bayern, in a more balanced set up with more quality players I am sure he will be fine when called upon.


Lol okay.

So what about the performance against Liverpool? One of our best in years. Also the one against Leicester where we blew them away with some of the best football we've also seen in years.

You know, without him.

Concrete proof and all that.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Marsbar100 » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:22 pm

So you think with what we currently have without Ramsey is good enough to get close to doing anything in the PL? reality is he hasn't featured much, we sit 5th and out of the current top 13 teams in the league discounting ourselves we still need to go away to 11/12 of them :rofll:
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby UFGN » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:28 pm

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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby SuperJackyWilshere » Tue Nov 20, 2018 10:29 pm

Marsbar100 wrote:So you think with what we currently have without Ramsey is good enough to get close to doing anything in the PL? reality is he hasn't featured much, we sit 5th and out of the current top 13 teams in the league discounting ourselves we still need to go away to 11/12 of them :rofll:


Never said that.

I was just proving how ridiculous and irrelevant your point about Wolves was.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby starmandb » Wed Nov 21, 2018 12:30 am

StLGooner wrote:
Ach wrote:You just have to look at our other CMs at the time and wonder who would have scored those goals that Ramsey did.

Those runs in to the box timed perfectly

Cazorla and co would've been waiting outside the area



Horrible logic. Nobody is saying that we had better CM's at the time, we're saying we need better than Ramsey. If we had better CM's then, maybe we would have won by 3 or 4 cause our CM's were more influential in the game. You guys are acting like there are no other players out there that can do what Ramsey does.

We won 3-0 at hull a month before the final
Ramsey scored in that as well
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby theHotHead » Wed Nov 21, 2018 8:04 am

Ach is being borderline WUM ! But kudos, he rates Ramsey highly and, like I said, I don't think Ramsey is shit, just not as good for Arsenal as the Ach and Marsbar narrative tries to make out.

Cazorla didn't create fan division such was his quality, so any effort to claim Ramsey was a better player than him is a proper piss take!
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