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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:41 pm

Massa wrote:
Also, that's 2 wins in 9 without our main man.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Santi » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:43 pm

well we've had 3 wins since 16th dec so....

add to that decent draws against Liverpool and Chelsea.

and there's only been 8 games since the Southampton game where he last played.

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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:45 pm

Mesüt wrote:well we've had 3 wins since 16th dec so....

add to that decent draws against Liverpool and Chelsea.


You yourself said Ramsey has been our most consistently good player this season, don't know why you're trying to act like he isn't missed.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:47 pm

Massa wrote:GA, just a tip mate, learn how to construct a proper argument. Maybe you will be taken more seriously

Here's the argument properly constructed then. One season wonder Alli has more goals in 3 seasons in the Premier League than Ramsey has here in double the number of games and seasons. Alli also has more goals this season in the League, when he's had a horrific season, compared to his standards. While Ramsey has supposedly been consistently good, and back to his best.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Santi » Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:48 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:
Mesüt wrote:well we've had 3 wins since 16th dec so....

add to that decent draws against Liverpool and Chelsea.


You yourself said Ramsey has been our most consistently good player this season, don't know why you're trying to act like he isn't missed.


Just correcting incorrect statements. Added more information as well.

And he was contributing goals and assists yes. Don't think u can say he's missed when we've played a whole 8 games without him n drawn vs 2 top 6 teams in that period and won 3 games.

Couple of shit results but guess what...we've had them with him in the team too.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby KG3 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:03 pm

We need to revamp the midfield once Ozil leaves at the end of the season, Xhaka needs to moved on and we need a solid CDM to play alongside Ramsey and CM that can dictate the tempo like Cazorla in a classic 4-3-3 and our midfield trio will go back to being one of the best in the league.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby StLGooner » Mon Jan 08, 2018 9:20 pm

KG3 wrote:We need to revamp the midfield once Ozil leaves at the end of the season, Xhaka needs to moved on and we need a solid CDM to play alongside Ramsey and CM that can dictate the tempo like Cazorla in a classic 4-3-3 and our midfield trio will go back to being one of the best in the league.



Shit we need to replace Ramsey too, or at least get in someone better and he can go to the bench.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Goonerz » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:15 pm

KG3 wrote:We need to revamp the midfield once Ozil leaves at the end of the season, Xhaka needs to moved on and we need a solid CDM to play alongside Ramsey and CM that can dictate the tempo like Cazorla in a classic 4-3-3 and our midfield trio will go back to being one of the best in the league.

Sorry but Ramsey is a poor standard CM compared to what we have been blessed with over the wenger years. Poor technically, first touch as good as my 7 year old nephew. Positionally clueless, defensively an aware but good at chasing the ball back. Good at scoring a goal here and there every after 8 or so games etc.. compare him to the good CMs and attacking midfielders we have had under wenger.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby EliteKiller » Tue Jan 09, 2018 1:50 pm

Ramsey over Dele .... hmmmmm

At 21 Ramsey had played 68 EPL games and scored 6 goals

At 21 Dele has played 91 EPL games and scored 33 goals

Nobody knows how Dele's career will go but when you consider that at 27 Ramsey has played 225 EPL games and still only got 32 goals ..... pretty sure I know which one is doing better at the moment ....

FYI - Lampard at 21 had played 77 games and got 10 goals ..... ended up with 127 top flight goals, now that's a big number but I would have a small wager that Dele gets pretty close ... especially if he joins a top side .....
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby greengoonerie » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:27 pm

I don't give a shit about Alli Vs Ramsey TBH.

Where will JW fit in when Ozil is gone?
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Tue Jan 09, 2018 2:37 pm

EliteKiller wrote:Ramsey over Dele .... hmmmmm

At 21 Ramsey had played 68 EPL games and scored 6 goals

At 21 Dele has played 91 EPL games and scored 33 goals

Nobody knows how Dele's career will go but when you consider that at 27 Ramsey has played 225 EPL games and still only got 32 goals ..... pretty sure I know which one is doing better at the moment ....

FYI - Lampard at 21 had played 77 games and got 10 goals ..... ended up with 127 top flight goals, now that's a big number but I would have a small wager that Dele gets pretty close ... especially if he joins a top side .....

Exactly, they play exactly the same role and Alli already has more goals and around 10 less assists. Unbelievable really how much better Alli has done. And his team is not better than ours man to man, so that's nowhere near an excuse, it's Alli who elevates the team, not the other way around. When you consider Alli is an average English midfielder who only scores goals, then you realise just how shit Ramsey is because he doesn't even do that
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Arsene Nose » Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:50 pm

We've won only two of the 6 games he's been out. Coincidence or critical?
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Santi » Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:33 pm

Arsene Nose wrote:We've won only two of the 6 games he's been out. Coincidence or critical?




more than 6 games - details on last page
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby SuperJackyWilshere » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:15 pm

Arsene Nose wrote:We've won only two of the 6 games he's been out. Coincidence or critical?


Only won 3 out of 6 before he got injured so no, not really a coincidence.

Forgot about Rambo since Jacks return to be honest. Will be a decent option to have on the bench now.
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Re: Aaron Ramsey (8)

Postby Luzh 22 » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:41 pm

SuperJackyWilshere wrote:
Arsene Nose wrote:We've won only two of the 6 games he's been out. Coincidence or critical?


Only won 3 out of 6 before he got injured so no, not really a coincidence.

Forgot about Rambo since Jacks return to be honest. Will be a decent option to have on the bench now.


LOL he'll bench Jack, just because Wenger.
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