Plymöuth Gööner wrote:starmandb wrote:he was good in the home game v stoke without assisting or scoring
It was you who decided to use goals and assists to determine if he had a good game. I'm sure that there will have been games where he was poor and scored/assisted (possibly even a consolation goal)!
So in 11/28 games he didn't score or assist. Fair enough, i take back my one good game in ten. Six good games in ten in a period that you chose as his best is not as good as the form Ramsey has shown since the tail end of last season.
It isn't just about the stats though. Sometimes you just have to look at performances and spirit - Ramsey just seems to be able to grab many games by the scruff of the neck in a way that Theo has only managed a handful of times.
So I stand by my statement that Rambo has shown much more consistency recently than Theo ever has.
i can do humour
i remember my lip turning in an upwards fashion at george and mildred once
i only highlighted a good game v stoke as a way of praising theo
yes you are right
theo had games where despite scoring or assisting he was not good
below par at schalke scoring
average home to fulham setting up girouds 2 goals
ave at everton scoring from a ramsey pass
below par at wigan earning arteta pen
poor at southampton scoring a deflection
av at chelsea scoring from cazorla pass
i don,t vote for player of the month but many do and in a 3 month period between oct and dec last year he was given the award 3 times.
thats not just me plucking things out the air
i really felt theo was at a crossroads at a point in the 10/11 season and that he needed to develop his game but i really do believe his inteligence in games[a thing i was concerned he did,nt have] has really improved i e his movement
and that despite a prof ilgate display at sunderland he has become much more than just an instinctive finisher
as for taking games by the scruff of the neck theos goals and assists have been responsible for 42 wins or draws
a few examples
the infamous 07/08 birmingham game where he turned round a 1 goal defecit
a game not even in the 42 liverpool away champs league his run for adebayor
everton home[another game not in the 42] where he came on 1 down won 3-1
2-2 with barca 09/10
chelsea home 3-1 10/11
west ham away 3-0
11/12 udinese home
12/13 west ham away 3-0
newcastle home 7-3
the bottom line is i am delighted that ramsey is showing himself to be the player we thought he could be
what i don,t understand is why it has to be at the expense of praise for theo
and there is no such thing as a consolation goal as winning the league at anfield on goal difference in 89 will attest