Massa wrote:Hleb was twice the dribbler Gervinho is
And twice as bad at finishing.
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by GunnGunn » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:05 pm
Massa wrote:Hleb was twice the dribbler Gervinho is
by CrimsonGunner11 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:10 pm
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:Leody wrote:I can't believe people are actually HAPPY about this... indifferent I could understand
Perfect world we would have signed a better winger and kept fivehead as a squad player.
Spot on.Shut up wrote:People tell me you cant criticize Ramsey as he always gives his all, Gervinho always gave his all, yet he got criticized.
Spot on.VCC wrote:Leody wrote:I can't believe people are actually HAPPY about this... indifferent I could understand
Perfect world we would have signed a better winger and kept fivehead as a squad player.
we already have theo podolski and miyachi
Theo "One good game in ten" Walcott
Lukas "Often goes missing in games" Podolski
Ryo "The high school kid" Miyachi
Gervinho has his flaws but our other wingers/forwards have theirs too. Haters gonna hate
You always say how you rate Wenger's judgement right? So how come you are moving goal posts when it comes to Gervinho? It is Wenger's call that he simply is not good enough so what do you have to say about that?
Walcott was our highest goal scorer and if he was only good once every ten games then imagine what he could do when he is good every other game
by Massa » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:11 pm
GunnGunn wrote:Massa wrote:Hleb was twice the dribbler Gervinho is
And twice as bad at finishing.
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by Leody » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:31 pm
Massa wrote:GunnGunn wrote:Massa wrote:Hleb was twice the dribbler Gervinho is
And twice as bad at finishing.
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Disagree. Hleb was one of our main players in the best seasonn we've had since 05. Gervinho could never have that type of impact. His dribbling ability is overrated, he averages 1.3 successful dribbles per game, compare that to any other top winger and it's likely to be worse. Considering that people consider that his best attribute it's a testament to how bad he is.
by Royal Gooner » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:31 pm
by Massa » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:35 pm
Leody wrote:Massa wrote:GunnGunn wrote:Massa wrote:Hleb was twice the dribbler Gervinho is
And twice as bad at finishing.
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Disagree. Hleb was one of our main players in the best seasonn we've had since 05. Gervinho could never have that type of impact. His dribbling ability is overrated, he averages 1.3 successful dribbles per game, compare that to any other top winger and it's likely to be worse. Considering that people consider that his best attribute it's a testament to how bad he is.
Yeah, that's only 3rd best in the entire league when you covert it to per 90 min played!
He's SHIT!!!
by Dejan » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:36 pm
by Leody » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:39 pm
Massa wrote:Leody wrote:Massa wrote:GunnGunn wrote:Massa wrote:Hleb was twice the dribbler Gervinho is
And twice as bad at finishing.
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Disagree. Hleb was one of our main players in the best seasonn we've had since 05. Gervinho could never have that type of impact. His dribbling ability is overrated, he averages 1.3 successful dribbles per game, compare that to any other top winger and it's likely to be worse. Considering that people consider that his best attribute it's a testament to how bad he is.
Yeah, that's only 3rd best in the entire league when you covert it to per 90 min played!
He's SHIT!!!
Did you read that table lol? It's a 'most frequent dribblers' list. He dribbles the 3rd most per 90 mins, yes, but look at the 'Dribble success rate'. 33.3%. Joint 3rd worst in that table. Just because a player does something alot doesn't mean he's good at it
by JohnDuval » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:40 pm
by Massa » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:49 pm
Leody wrote:Massa wrote:Leody wrote:Massa wrote:GunnGunn wrote:Massa wrote:Hleb was twice the dribbler Gervinho is
And twice as bad at finishing.
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Disagree. Hleb was one of our main players in the best seasonn we've had since 05. Gervinho could never have that type of impact. His dribbling ability is overrated, he averages 1.3 successful dribbles per game, compare that to any other top winger and it's likely to be worse. Considering that people consider that his best attribute it's a testament to how bad he is.
Yeah, that's only 3rd best in the entire league when you covert it to per 90 min played!
He's SHIT!!!
Did you read that table lol? It's a 'most frequent dribblers' list. He dribbles the 3rd most per 90 mins, yes, but look at the 'Dribble success rate'. 33.3%. Joint 3rd worst in that table. Just because a player does something alot doesn't mean he's good at it
Yeah, because he takes chances other players don't. That's like saying Denilson was a great passer because his completion rate was consistantly 95% or better, but because he only passed it backwards. Gervinho runs at people constantly. His success rate is naturally going to be lower because he's forcing the issue more than most.
Just like CMs who are constantly trying to make defense splitting passes are going to have a lower passing %.
by Leody » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:54 pm
Massa wrote:Leody wrote:Massa wrote:Leody wrote:Massa wrote:GunnGunn wrote:Massa wrote:Hleb was twice the dribbler Gervinho is
And twice as bad at finishing.
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Disagree. Hleb was one of our main players in the best seasonn we've had since 05. Gervinho could never have that type of impact. His dribbling ability is overrated, he averages 1.3 successful dribbles per game, compare that to any other top winger and it's likely to be worse. Considering that people consider that his best attribute it's a testament to how bad he is.
Yeah, that's only 3rd best in the entire league when you covert it to per 90 min played!
He's SHIT!!!
Did you read that table lol? It's a 'most frequent dribblers' list. He dribbles the 3rd most per 90 mins, yes, but look at the 'Dribble success rate'. 33.3%. Joint 3rd worst in that table. Just because a player does something alot doesn't mean he's good at it
Yeah, because he takes chances other players don't. That's like saying Denilson was a great passer because his completion rate was consistantly 95% or better, but because he only passed it backwards. Gervinho runs at people constantly. His success rate is naturally going to be lower because he's forcing the issue more than most.
Just like CMs who are constantly trying to make defense splitting passes are going to have a lower passing %.
Gervinho also has a poor shots on target percentage, does that mean he's good at is cause he's constantly shooting? 'Forcing the issue' with an attribute you're not good at doesn't make you better at it. If Gervinho was as good a dribbler as people make out his successful dribbles per game/successful dribbles percentage stats would be higher.
Either way it's a pretty meaningless table and is certainly not strong enough evidence for you to accompany it with a sarcastic comment.
by CrimsonGunner11 » Thu Aug 08, 2013 9:56 pm
Leody wrote:Massa wrote:Leody wrote:Massa wrote:GunnGunn wrote:Massa wrote:Hleb was twice the dribbler Gervinho is
And twice as bad at finishing.
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Disagree. Hleb was one of our main players in the best seasonn we've had since 05. Gervinho could never have that type of impact. His dribbling ability is overrated, he averages 1.3 successful dribbles per game, compare that to any other top winger and it's likely to be worse. Considering that people consider that his best attribute it's a testament to how bad he is.
Yeah, that's only 3rd best in the entire league when you covert it to per 90 min played!
He's SHIT!!!
Did you read that table lol? It's a 'most frequent dribblers' list. He dribbles the 3rd most per 90 mins, yes, but look at the 'Dribble success rate'. 33.3%. Joint 3rd worst in that table. Just because a player does something alot doesn't mean he's good at it
Yeah, because he takes chances other players don't. That's like saying Denilson was a great passer because his completion rate was consistantly 95% or better, but because he only passed it backwards. Gervinho runs at people constantly. His success rate is naturally going to be lower because he's forcing the issue more than most.
Just like CMs who are constantly trying to make defense splitting passes are going to have a lower passing %.
Look at Suarez, his is only 37% and people think he's God's gift to strikers right now.
by Massa » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:11 pm
Leody wrote:Massa wrote:Leody wrote:Massa wrote:Leody wrote:Massa wrote:GunnGunn wrote:Massa wrote:Hleb was twice the dribbler Gervinho is
And twice as bad at finishing.
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Disagree. Hleb was one of our main players in the best seasonn we've had since 05. Gervinho could never have that type of impact. His dribbling ability is overrated, he averages 1.3 successful dribbles per game, compare that to any other top winger and it's likely to be worse. Considering that people consider that his best attribute it's a testament to how bad he is.
Yeah, that's only 3rd best in the entire league when you covert it to per 90 min played!
He's SHIT!!!
Did you read that table lol? It's a 'most frequent dribblers' list. He dribbles the 3rd most per 90 mins, yes, but look at the 'Dribble success rate'. 33.3%. Joint 3rd worst in that table. Just because a player does something alot doesn't mean he's good at it
Yeah, because he takes chances other players don't. That's like saying Denilson was a great passer because his completion rate was consistantly 95% or better, but because he only passed it backwards. Gervinho runs at people constantly. His success rate is naturally going to be lower because he's forcing the issue more than most.
Just like CMs who are constantly trying to make defense splitting passes are going to have a lower passing %.
Gervinho also has a poor shots on target percentage, does that mean he's good at is cause he's constantly shooting? 'Forcing the issue' with an attribute you're not good at doesn't make you better at it. If Gervinho was as good a dribbler as people make out his successful dribbles per game/successful dribbles percentage stats would be higher.
Either way it's a pretty meaningless table and is certainly not strong enough evidence for you to accompany it with a sarcastic comment.
Would you say C. Ronaldo is a good dribbler?
I think most sane people on the planet would...
His success rate is 34% and he averages 1.3 a game
by JohnDuval » Thu Aug 08, 2013 10:13 pm
by GSK_AFC » Fri Aug 09, 2013 11:52 am