I feel sick.
Its almost like Wenger sticks by his signings the more criticism they get. How is Almunia still even at the club let alone our No.2?
by Zedie » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:05 pm
by Arsenal~Fanatic » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:06 pm
CynicalGooner wrote:Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:CynicalGooner wrote:Who the f**k mentioned Chez? Not me. You got issues. Fabianski is piss poor, admittance is the first step, then we can face acceptance together. Don't worry i'll hold your hand
Really ? hmm then Szczesny must be the same cos , there isn't much between the two when it comes to ability.
You are entitled to your opinion. What's not up for debate though is that Chez is the type of keeper we need and Fabianski is not, you might rate them equal but they are very different goalkeepers. Does Chez currently have glaring weaknesses in his game? Sure he does, but we haven't had a clown between the posts most of the season and people love to forget how much worse another option is as well as talking up the bench warmers and they always look silly afterwards. Remember Olympiakos?
by Yorkyblue » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:11 pm
by CrimsonGunner11 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:26 pm
gzagee wrote:Chesney is the best option at the club. No doubt about that.
Whether one thinks there's a million miles or a hairs breadth (my vote is somewhere in the middle) between them I'd go for Chesney every day and Sunday.
However, it is complete madness to send Mannone and Fabs out on loan and make Almunia the back-up.
by Arsenal~Fanatic » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:34 pm
SammyGunner11 wrote:gzagee wrote:Chesney is the best option at the club. No doubt about that.
Whether one thinks there's a million miles or a hairs breadth (my vote is somewhere in the middle) between them I'd go for Chesney every day and Sunday.
However, it is complete madness to send Mannone and Fabs out on loan and make Almunia the back-up.
This.
Szczesny is the best and most consistent option we have now and probably for a few more years to come. Fabianski has shown time and time again that he's vulnerable to those "Almunia Moments," whereas Szczesny has not IMO.
(And when I say "Almunia Moments," I mean those strange, wtf decisions you'll never expect from a keeper and not those common mistakes that even the best keepers still make)
by Leody » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:37 pm
by Arsenal~Fanatic » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:43 pm
Leody wrote:Like I've said before...
We've had such poor keeping at the club since Jens left, people lose sight of how average our keepers are because they look good compared to the crap we've seen.
by Popey » Thu Jan 19, 2012 9:58 pm
by Arsenal~Fanatic » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:02 pm
Popey wrote:to let flappy on loan would be sooo stupid because I can see scezzny getting injured after he leaves. so please no. I don't want to see almunia again in goal.
as for scezzny: the guy has made some mistakes but every keeper makes mistakes. look at reina against city in the league. and reina has much more experience. scezzny is very young and will still learn. for a keeper of his age he's really good. some of you are really never happy with our players.
by CrimsonGunner11 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:04 pm
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:SammyGunner11 wrote:gzagee wrote:Chesney is the best option at the club. No doubt about that.
Whether one thinks there's a million miles or a hairs breadth (my vote is somewhere in the middle) between them I'd go for Chesney every day and Sunday.
However, it is complete madness to send Mannone and Fabs out on loan and make Almunia the back-up.
This.
Szczesny is the best and most consistent option we have now and probably for a few more years to come. Fabianski has shown time and time again that he's vulnerable to those "Almunia Moments," whereas Szczesny has not IMO.
(And when I say "Almunia Moments," I mean those strange, wtf decisions you'll never expect from a keeper and not those common mistakes that even the best keepers still make)
Like the Carling cup final , like coming out on several occasions to get caught out in no-man's land this season , like flapping at a cross against Fulham , like Getting beaten by regular long -range shots , like letting a regulation shot thru to far post last game against Swansea yeah i get it. yeah these are the mistakes top keepers make regularly , and we should not worry about them.
We have to make do with the best we have and what we have are three average keepers with a lot of potential for future.
Hennessey , Krul , Hart, Reina , Friedel have had much better season than overhyped Szczesny.
by Arsenal~Fanatic » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:09 pm
SammyGunner11 wrote:Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:SammyGunner11 wrote:gzagee wrote:Chesney is the best option at the club. No doubt about that.
Whether one thinks there's a million miles or a hairs breadth (my vote is somewhere in the middle) between them I'd go for Chesney every day and Sunday.
However, it is complete madness to send Mannone and Fabs out on loan and make Almunia the back-up.
This.
Szczesny is the best and most consistent option we have now and probably for a few more years to come. Fabianski has shown time and time again that he's vulnerable to those "Almunia Moments," whereas Szczesny has not IMO.
(And when I say "Almunia Moments," I mean those strange, wtf decisions you'll never expect from a keeper and not those common mistakes that even the best keepers still make)
Like the Carling cup final , like coming out on several occasions to get caught out in no-man's land this season , like flapping at a cross against Fulham , like Getting beaten by regular long -range shots , like letting a regulation shot thru to far post last game against Swansea yeah i get it. yeah these are the mistakes top keepers make regularly , and we should not worry about them.
We have to make do with the best we have and what we have are three average keepers with a lot of potential for future.
Hennessey , Krul , Hart, Reina , Friedel have had much better season than overhyped Szczesny.
The CC game was a miscommunication error between keeper and defender and your other examples can easily be made by the best keepers. Van der Sar, Reina, Cech, etc have all made similar mistakes. I'm not sure you understand what I mean when I say "Almunia Moments." Go and YouTube some of Almunia's flops and you'll quickly understand what I'm getting at.
Fabianski has experienced similar fails
by CrimsonGunner11 » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:24 pm
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:SammyGunner11 wrote:Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:SammyGunner11 wrote:gzagee wrote:Chesney is the best option at the club. No doubt about that.
Whether one thinks there's a million miles or a hairs breadth (my vote is somewhere in the middle) between them I'd go for Chesney every day and Sunday.
However, it is complete madness to send Mannone and Fabs out on loan and make Almunia the back-up.
This.
Szczesny is the best and most consistent option we have now and probably for a few more years to come. Fabianski has shown time and time again that he's vulnerable to those "Almunia Moments," whereas Szczesny has not IMO.
(And when I say "Almunia Moments," I mean those strange, wtf decisions you'll never expect from a keeper and not those common mistakes that even the best keepers still make)
Like the Carling cup final , like coming out on several occasions to get caught out in no-man's land this season , like flapping at a cross against Fulham , like Getting beaten by regular long -range shots , like letting a regulation shot thru to far post last game against Swansea yeah i get it. yeah these are the mistakes top keepers make regularly , and we should not worry about them.
We have to make do with the best we have and what we have are three average keepers with a lot of potential for future.
Hennessey , Krul , Hart, Reina , Friedel have had much better season than overhyped Szczesny.
The CC game was a miscommunication error between keeper and defender and your other examples can easily be made by the best keepers. Van der Sar, Reina, Cech, etc have all made similar mistakes. I'm not sure you understand what I mean when I say "Almunia Moments." Go and YouTube some of Almunia's flops and you'll quickly understand what I'm getting at.
Fabianski has experienced similar fails
Message has to be sent to him , that if he does not improve he will be benched. But all our keepers are at the same level and as usual we have three to four options for a place but not one is exceptional. Like too many CM's but is anybody fit enough to lace Cesc's boots , like So many strikers two in the squad , two out on loan, not one fit enough to lace RVP's boots . This has been the bane of this club , plenty of above average players none exceptional. You need to have a mix of players like Cesc and RVP on end and Arteta's and Rosicky's on the other. What we have here is squad full of Park's , Jenkinson's , Diaby's Chamakhs , Squillaci , Almunia , etc.
by Inchpräctice » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:44 pm
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:CynicalGooner wrote:Err, why would we do that?
someone sensible: VETO that shit
Actually you know what, Almunia is still better than flaps. They are both hopeless. Hows the irish midget keeper getting along?
Szczesny is no VDS. His last f*ck up was not even 8 days back. I get surprised when people talk up as though there is a million mile between Fabianski and Szczesny .Fabianski's last game for us was no great shakes but in the mean time Szczesny has had a few howlers himself and the two of them were in the last two weeks . Caught flapping at a regulation cross and cost us the match against Fulham while last week let in a simple ball to far post by committing himself far too early. His distribution is still as awful as it was last season and the less we talk about his kicking the better. Szczesny hasn't covered himself in glory this season to be overhyping him to moon.
by Dejan » Thu Jan 19, 2012 10:49 pm
by Inchpräctice » Thu Jan 19, 2012 11:08 pm
Dejan wrote:But he didnt save alot of distance shots which he should of have saved though.