Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby starmandb » Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:54 am

Fran Solo wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
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Nuggets wrote:A good manager would sort this guy out and turn him into a first-class player, problem is we haven't got one.


Yeah but a manager can't fix his attitude though.

He needs to grow up and stop causing issues everywhere he goes.


He's another Ballotelli.

Many managers will try but they'll all fail.


C'mon, Man. Balotelli got more than enough chances while Guendouzi has only played less than ten games under Arteta IIRC. Less than players like Willian, Nketiah and even loanee like Ceballos.
That's why people use him as Arteta's beating stick. Same with Mavropanos and Saliba.

He has played 12 games under Arteta
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby Fran Solo » Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:36 pm

starmandb wrote:
Fran Solo wrote:
Phil71 wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:
Nuggets wrote:A good manager would sort this guy out and turn him into a first-class player, problem is we haven't got one.


Yeah but a manager can't fix his attitude though.

He needs to grow up and stop causing issues everywhere he goes.


He's another Ballotelli.

Many managers will try but they'll all fail.


C'mon, Man. Balotelli got more than enough chances while Guendouzi has only played less than ten games under Arteta IIRC. Less than players like Willian, Nketiah and even loanee like Ceballos.
That's why people use him as Arteta's beating stick. Same with Mavropanos and Saliba.

He has played 12 games under Arteta


Thanks, Mate. My mistake. Still pretty low number.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby theHotHead » Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:16 pm

ag6789 wrote:Ballotelli had qualities and scored important goals besides his attitude, but this guy Douzi is all attitude and no game. Had probably one assist and a goal plenty of screwups on field in 18 months under Unai, but loads of bad behaviour.

What was all this plenty of bad behaviour crap? The only thing he did that warranted a good telling off was grabbing that Brighton player. What was all this other stuff you claim was bad behaviour?!
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby ag6789 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:16 pm

Where to begin? His first top level manager at Lorient . Bernard Casoni had warned him of his 'bad attitude', before coming to Arsenal. At Hertha Berlin he had problems, and now at Marseille his current manager Sampoli is fed up w/ his aggressive attitude , even w/ his own team mate Gerson... just a few examples.
At Arsenal , he first had a bust up w/ Arteta at Dubai ( training) followed by the Brighton incident. Trouble follows this temperamental boy. Should focus more on his game than the side issues or whatever trivial stuff happening around him.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:55 pm

ag6789 wrote:Where to begin? His first top level manager at Lorient . Bernard Casoni had warned him of his 'bad attitude', before coming to Arsenal. At Hertha Berlin he had problems, and now at Marseille his current manager Sampoli is fed up w/ his aggressive attitude , even w/ his own team mate Gerson... just a few examples.
At Arsenal , he first had a bust up w/ Arteta at Dubai ( training) followed by the Brighton incident. Trouble follows this temperamental boy. Should focus more on his game than the side issues or whatever trivial stuff happening around him.


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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby ag6789 » Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:09 pm

Matteo Guandouzi branded rebellious by Hertha Berlin boss Pal Dardai. His loan spell swiftly came to an end when the boss was frustrated by his unruly ways.
At Marseille, once the results have started going south in recent days ( 4 loses in 5?),he starts blaming others for the failures. The boss Sampoli says he'll will tolerate this for now but not for long.
Amazing, from a loanee to play manager when he's not even a regular! Enjoys tickling seniors now! A real character!
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby swipe right » Wed Nov 24, 2021 3:10 am

ag6789 wrote:Matteo Guandouzi branded rebellious by Hertha Berlin boss Pal Dardai. His loan spell swiftly came to an end when the boss was frustrated by his unruly ways.
At Marseille, once the results have started going south in recent days ( 4 loses in 5?),he starts blaming others for the failures. The boss Sampoli says he'll will tolerate this for now but not for long.
Amazing, from a loanee to play manager when he's not even a regular! Enjoys tickling seniors now! A real character!

What is going on in the world in 2021? Footballers can’t be rebellious now? Best, Zidane, Adams, Vieira were not rebellious? It’s the bloody managers job to break them in. How did Wenger handle prime Vieira or Fergie handle Keane? Stop this rebellious bullshit.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby theHotHead » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:53 pm

ag6789 wrote:Where to begin? His first top level manager at Lorient . Bernard Casoni had warned him of his 'bad attitude', before coming to Arsenal. At Hertha Berlin he had problems, and now at Marseille his current manager Sampoli is fed up w/ his aggressive attitude , even w/ his own team mate Gerson... just a few examples.
At Arsenal , he first had a bust up w/ Arteta at Dubai ( training) followed by the Brighton incident. Trouble follows this temperamental boy. Should focus more on his game than the side issues or whatever trivial stuff happening around him.

As I suspected, so the only misbehaviour Guendouzi was guilty of with Arteta was the alleged swinging his shirt around at a function/dinner and gripsing up a Brighton player in defense of his teammate.

I knew you had nothing, thanks for proving it.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby theHotHead » Wed Nov 24, 2021 8:54 pm

swipe right wrote:
ag6789 wrote:Matteo Guandouzi branded rebellious by Hertha Berlin boss Pal Dardai. His loan spell swiftly came to an end when the boss was frustrated by his unruly ways.
At Marseille, once the results have started going south in recent days ( 4 loses in 5?),he starts blaming others for the failures. The boss Sampoli says he'll will tolerate this for now but not for long.
Amazing, from a loanee to play manager when he's not even a regular! Enjoys tickling seniors now! A real character!

What is going on in the world in 2021? Footballers can’t be rebellious now? Best, Zidane, Adams, Vieira were not rebellious? It’s the bloody managers job to break them in. How did Wenger handle prime Vieira or Fergie handle Keane? Stop this rebellious bullshit.

He has got nothing. His 2 weak-ass reasons for Arteta alienating him are dead excuses.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby Phil71 » Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:53 pm

Why would anyone put themselves out to pander to Guendouzi's whims and fancies? He's nothing special.

Much simpler just to open the door and send him on his way with your toe up his crack.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby Losmeister » Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:56 pm

Phil71 wrote:Why would anyone put themselves out to pander to Guendouzi's whims and fancies? He's nothing special.

Much simpler just to open the door and send him on his way with your toe up his crack.


f**k this effete POS

he's a f***ing wimp
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby swipe right » Wed Nov 24, 2021 11:57 pm

Phil71 wrote:Why would anyone put themselves out to pander to Guendouzi's whims and fancies? He's nothing special.

Much simpler just to open the door and send him on his way with your toe up his crack.

He’s better than Xhaka and Sambi. So we should be using him.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby theHotHead » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:09 am

Phil71 wrote:Why would anyone put themselves out to pander to Guendouzi's whims and fancies? He's nothing special.

Much simpler just to open the door and send him on his way with your toe up his crack.

Its only putting yourself out if the player has fallen foul of key rules. As it stands swinging your shirt around at a dinner shouldn't In anyone's book be classed as a serious misdemeanor and getting physical with an opposing team player is a trait any manager with half a damn brain would see as a positive.
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby theHotHead » Thu Nov 25, 2021 9:11 am

swipe right wrote:
Phil71 wrote:Why would anyone put themselves out to pander to Guendouzi's whims and fancies? He's nothing special.

Much simpler just to open the door and send him on his way with your toe up his crack.

He’s better than Xhaka and Sambi. So we should be using him.

Exactly. The boy at 18 was better than Xhaka is now
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Re: Mattéo Guendouzi (on loan - Olympique de Marseille)

Postby Reiss » Thu Nov 25, 2021 11:03 am

Neither Xhaka or Matteo are good enough or warrant the stress they constantly give us.

Both should be gone and replaced.
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