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Re: Héctor Bellerín (2)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:21 pm

Est83 wrote:
aniym wrote:
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Jez wrote:Ornstein says Bellerin to Betis on a... loan :doh:

Oh and no option to buy :rofll:

We can't get 2 pence for our lot can we. This guy is only 26 ffs how can we not even get a fee for him?!


There's been more talk of wages being the bigger issue, and not funds. Getting players off the payroll seems to be the greater priority.


How can that be the case when we're on track to spend £150m on transfer fees alone?

Bellerin's replacement isn't playing for free. Neither are the 3 other RBs we have on payroll.


We've been a profitable club for decades, I guess we have a large spending allowance as a result? Whereas wages would be considered as operating costs, which also have FFP regulations?

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The wage bill issue is one step forward, two steps back, and has been that way for a while. I don't think we're trying to reduce the bill for FFP purposes.

Forward: Ozil, Mustafi, Sokratis wages off the books.

Backwards: £200k pw for Partey + Willian, £350k pw for Auba

We're doing the same thing this window, with Ben White getting £120k pw, far more than what Luiz was on.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (2)

Postby Arsenal Tone » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:00 pm

Another Wenger player gone. Another defender whose best attributes were attacking attributes.

Nothing against him, just we all know Wenger was more worried about full backs getting forward than being able to defend. Hopefully Tomiyasu will offer more protection to the defence and allow the right winger more freedom to attack.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (2)

Postby Marsbar100 » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:03 pm

Needed to go, been stinking the place out for a while now
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (2)

Postby BexleyGooner » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:34 pm

Officially gone. All the best Bellers.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (2)

Postby Angelito » Tue Aug 31, 2021 9:46 pm

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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Goonerred » Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:50 am

I like him, but I feel he was cruising for the last few years, big injury apart.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (2)

Postby VCC » Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:54 am

BexleyGooner wrote:I’ve had major surgery that has been done quicker than this medical.

Been going on since about 11am

Hasn't got passed the mental side yet then
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby VCC » Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:56 am

All the best to him, wasn't my cup of tea may as well played in slippers
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Nuggets » Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:58 am

Bye Bellend, he was good at one time.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Sep 01, 2021 2:46 pm

Less happy about his departure after watching Chambers going downtown to clowntown at RB.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (2)

Postby Est83 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:58 pm

Arsenal Tone wrote:Another Wenger player gone. Another defender whose best attributes were attacking attributes.

Nothing against him, just we all know Wenger was more worried about full backs getting forward than being able to defend. Hopefully Tomiyasu will offer more protection to the defence and allow the right winger more freedom to attack.


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Some of the best to have ever played in this league. Not saying he hasn't picked some bad ones (Santos was definitely a winger!), but even the likes of Eboue was defensively solid, and Kola is clearly more suited to the defensive side of the game.

Wouldn't agree with your point, personally.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Est83 » Wed Sep 15, 2021 8:59 pm

Debut stats:

81% pass accuracy
2 key passes
2/3 long balls completed
3/4 ground duels won
1/1 aerial duels won
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Sep 15, 2021 9:35 pm

^^ Do his stats really matter? He ain't coming back.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Fran Solo » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:02 pm

I strongly believe most of our players can be a better player under different coach, especially if they are still hungry to prove themselves. Just look at other players deemed not good enough to play for us such as Mavropanos, Guendouzi, Willock and Saliba.
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Re: Héctor Bellerín (on loan - Real Betis Balompié)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Thu Sep 16, 2021 3:38 pm

Fran Solo wrote:I strongly believe most of our players can be a better player under different coach, especially if they are still hungry to prove themselves. Just look at other players deemed not good enough to play for us such as Mavropanos, Guendouzi, Willock and Saliba.


Bellerin's contract expires in the summer, so it's a moot point. He's not in the Mavro/Saliba category, he's an Arsenal veteran who we've seen play under several managers.
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