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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Santi » Thu Oct 29, 2020 8:57 pm

Angelito wrote:


And yet not half the recognition that Gashford gets.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Thu Oct 29, 2020 10:29 pm

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DiamondGooner wrote:You just haven't got the point of my post, at all is the problem.

The point wasn't whether or not Ozil is or isn't needed in the team, the point is he's now not eligible for being in the team so what's the point of discussing it? its irrelevant.

I need a million bucks, but it ain't happening and neither is Ozil playing for AFC.

He's gone, even if Arteta "needed" him and it was proven, he hasn't been registered in either the Prem or Europa, he's a dead duck as of now, never coming back, so yes, Swipes post is the epitome of irrelevant.

Stating whether or not Arteta made a mistake is one thing, but its long done now, what's the point?

I got your point, but you missed mine. It doesn't matter that Ozil isn't in the team, people said the same when emery dropped Ozil, that didn't last long. And so what, if we want to continue to call for his inclusion we will do so, we don't need you and others telling us we shouldnb't discuss him anymore. Wenger isn't here and we still discuss him. You are welcome to stop discussing it but I won't until Ozil is no longer an Arsenal player.


Exactly .......... he's not an Arsenal player anymore.

Like, literally, Arteta couldn't play him even if he had a gun to his head, he didn't register Ozil to play this season, meaning he'll never play a game till his contract expires.

At the very most he's like an Arsenal employee who's not actually working but he's not a player, players were registered so they can actually go on a football pitch.

jayramfootball wrote:Not true.
He can still play in the U23 team.
He is an Arsenal player.


Oh silly me, what was I thinking. :dontknow:

Worst rebuttal ever because you know damn well we're all talking about the Senior team.

His AFC Senior career is officially finished, there, that's clarified.


Its not a rebuttal, it's just a plain fact.
He's an Arsenal player. not in the senior squad, sure, but...
Actually his best move would be to play in the u23.
He could come out and agree to it.

Then he can show that he actually does care about Arsenal and winning his place back and will show 100% he can put aside ego. He could really help some of those young players.
On the flip side, if he says he'll play and Arsenal don; let him play there either - we'll know 100% that it's all political.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Fri Oct 30, 2020 7:41 am

Santi wrote:
Angelito wrote:


And yet not half the recognition that Gashford gets.

Good point that. One person is doing a lot of talking about the matter, the other is dipping in his pocket and doing something about it!
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby StockGooner » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:28 am

theHotHead wrote:
Santi wrote:
Angelito wrote:


And yet not half the recognition that Gashford gets.

Good point that. One person is doing a lot of talking about the matter, the other is dipping in his pocket and doing something about it!


Or it could be two players both doing something extremely good. Why dig one out and take a shot?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Power n Glory » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:40 am

StockGooner wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Santi wrote:
Angelito wrote:


And yet not half the recognition that Gashford gets.

Good point that. One person is doing a lot of talking about the matter, the other is dipping in his pocket and doing something about it!


Or it could be two players both doing something extremely good. Why dig one out and take a shot?


Grade A cuntery. That's why. Credit to whoever is doing the work and not just talking because I know I'm not doing anything at all to contribute and raise money.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Fri Oct 30, 2020 10:42 am

Meanwhile Auba just wrapped another Lamborghini in tinfoil.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Rockape » Fri Oct 30, 2020 1:59 pm

You do know that charitable donations are tax deductable....so its us that are actually paying for those meals.

Just sayin!

Meanwhile Rashford , aged only 21 has raised his head above the parapet to fight the government for something he believes in.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:31 pm

Rockape wrote:You do know that charitable donations are tax deductable....so its us that are actually paying for those meals.

Just sayin!

Meanwhile Rashford , aged only 21 has raised his head above the parapet to fight the government for something he believes in.


Tax-deductible just means you can write off the amount against your taxable income... It doesn't mean the whole amount would have otherwise been paid in tax.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Angelito » Fri Oct 30, 2020 2:42 pm



Such a horrible thing that it has to end this way for him. :(
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Santi » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:28 pm

Rockape wrote:You do know that charitable donations are tax deductable....so its us that are actually paying for those meals.

Just sayin!

Meanwhile Rashford , aged only 21 has raised his head above the parapet to fight the government for something he believes in.


And when Ozil tries to fight against a government he gets shut down and told to be quiet :dontknow:

Either way one gets credit, the other gets scrutinised. I originally thought it was the causes they were supporting that drove the difference but now Mesut is practically on board with the same cause as Gashford.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Nuggets » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:51 pm

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Such a horrible thing that it has to end this way for him. :(


Yea, cry me a river. :crybaby: He played his part in his downfall.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Rockape » Fri Oct 30, 2020 4:53 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
Rockape wrote:You do know that charitable donations are tax deductable....so its us that are actually paying for those meals.

Just sayin!

Meanwhile Rashford , aged only 21 has raised his head above the parapet to fight the government for something he believes in.


Tax-deductible just means you can write off the amount against your taxable income... It doesn't mean the whole amount would have otherwise been paid in tax.


Really? I suggest you read up on it a bit more!
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Fri Oct 30, 2020 5:32 pm

Rockape wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Rockape wrote:You do know that charitable donations are tax deductable....so its us that are actually paying for those meals.

Just sayin!

Meanwhile Rashford , aged only 21 has raised his head above the parapet to fight the government for something he believes in.


Tax-deductible just means you can write off the amount against your taxable income... It doesn't mean the whole amount would have otherwise been paid in tax.


Really? I suggest you read up on it a bit more!


I don't need to.
If you think someone giving to charity doesn't have to spend a penny of their own money, why don't you try donating a £1m today to your favourite charity and see how it works out for you. Hell, why not make it £1bn... after all, you would not have to pay anything, the tax payer would pick it all up... right?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Angelito » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:42 pm

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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby aniym » Fri Oct 30, 2020 6:58 pm

This stalemate looks set to continue until the contract expires.

Arteta is not Mourinho, he won't publicly criticize Ozil's commitment or skills to justify his decision. As he says, people have already made up their minds whether they believe his reasons or not.

Similarly, Ozil will not offer any kind of public self-reflection about his performances since 2018. His position is "I'm doing my best in training, I don't know why I'm not being picked'. Now that the die is cast and he's out of the squad, why should he change his tune?
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