Power n Glory wrote:Angelito wrote:Power n Glory wrote:Angelito wrote:Power n Glory wrote:gamechannel wrote:theHotHead wrote:I don't get any argument along the lines of, as poor as we have been creatively Ozil would be of no benefit.
Thats total bull crap.
Thats just the same old rhetoric from Ozil critics. Their criticism is not invalid that his impact has diminished compared to his earlier years. But its their constant refusal to come up with a single viable name in the current squad when asked about a better alternative for Ozil that makes me laugh. They keep saying Ozil is past it yet he's still the best creative mid we got but the Ozil critics won't admit that cuz they're blinded by their agendas. Its one thing to say Ozil shouldn't play over someone like Havertz, Firminho, Fernandez et al, but to say that he doesn't deserve to play while we trot out rubbish like Willock, Nelson, Willian etc is lunacy.
That's great. But tell me the last time Ozil had an impact against Man City and helped us win the game?
Nobody has an issue with Ozil being benched. The problem is, he's not being benched! He's not even in the squad when he's out second highest earner.
And, he sure as heck isn't the worst player amongst those 25 here.
Ozil won't be here next season. Arteta will be. He won't be able to hide being Ozil for too much long. Arsenal fans won't be able to blame Ozil for long. The script will write itself soon.
I don't want my manager to say that losing 1-0 to this City side is "progress."
Do we know when Ozil last had an impact off the bench?
Strawman.
When was the last time half of our players ever had an impact in their entire careers?
The argument is simply that Ozil is a better than half of the players we have whether he's past it or not. It's another thing that he has been a bonafide starter for every manager he's ever played for until Emery happened.
Strawman? I've asked you a question.
That's a loaded question.
Here's a loaded question: When was the last time Henry scored in a cup final?
Doesn't mean you'd exclude him in cup finals.
If Ozil were being excluded against City and Liverpool, whilst playing in the EL and the League Cup, there wouldn't be any outrage. But that's not the case. He's being treated like he's no longer an Arsenal player, while still being on the club payroll.
My post wasn't City-specific. That was clear. You're going round and round when the argument from most about this is specific: why isn't Ozil playing at all? Why isn't he in the EL squad or playing in the League Cup?
It's not for footballing reasons. It has nothing to do with his performances.
That is the kernel of the argument. Nobody can convince anyone rational here that it is a good idea to pay him his salary not to play or get involved at all.
That is that. Using strawman fallacy to create an argument when there is none is frankly unneeded here. It is what it is.