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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:32 am

swipe right wrote:Pick your combo in a midfield of 433

——Ozil
Xhaka—Partey

——Saka
Xhaka—Partey

——Ceballos
Xhaka—Partey

——Willock
Xhaka—Partey
I think we'll get Ceballos playing deeper with Partey on the right and Xhaka/Saka rotating on the left of a three man midfield.

I'd be happy with that btw
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:38 am

In an ideal 433 you would have an:
Anchor - Partey
Controller - Xhaka
B2B attacker - like a KDB which we don’t have right now

Till then I expect Arteta to play 343 with the additional creativity coming from Saka on the left and Lacazette dropping deep to bolster midfield.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:52 pm

4-3-3

Partey
Ozil - Ceballos
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Marsbar100 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:55 pm

Might need him back
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:59 pm

Arteta needs to grovel to Ozil to come back. Simple.
We need him badly.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:12 pm

We really don't
Raya/Ramsdale
White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
???/Jorginho
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Godlop » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:15 pm

jayramfootball wrote:Arteta needs to grovel to Ozil to come back. Simple.
We need him badly.


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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:24 am

We are unable to create chances and yet leave this guy on the bench. Crazy.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:41 am

We need to bring back the guy who created just 3 goals in the whole last season - yup that makes perfect sense - let's just pray he's no longer a squad player come Monday then this sad fanboy nonsense can finally end.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:43 am

EliteKiller wrote:We need to bring back the guy who created just 3 goals in the whole last season - yup that makes perfect sense - let's just pray he's no longer a squad player come Monday then this sad fanboy nonsense can finally end.

So all of a sudden a world cup winner, 5 times German player of the year, Real Madrid star, 19 assists a season player has just become shit and he can’t get into the squad ahead of Dani Ceballos and Joe Willock? Yeah that makes sense.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby ag6789 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:48 am

Not suddenly. His decline had been steep over the past two years. Do not think he would changed much today. Probably would've pulled another Willian.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:28 am

swipe right wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:We need to bring back the guy who created just 3 goals in the whole last season - yup that makes perfect sense - let's just pray he's no longer a squad player come Monday then this sad fanboy nonsense can finally end.

So all of a sudden a world cup winner, 5 times German player of the year, Real Madrid star, 19 assists a season player has just become shit and he can’t get into the squad ahead of Dani Ceballos and Joe Willock? Yeah that makes sense.


It makes perfect sense - a player who hasn't performed for two years is no longer worth his place - I can list 200 world cup winners none of whom are remotely now worth a starting spot at Arsenal, time catches up with all of them in the end.

Manuel Neuer; Benedikt Höwedes, Mats Hummels, Jérôme Boateng, Philipp Lahm; Toni Kroos, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Sami Khedira; Mesut Özil, Miroslav Klose, Thomas Müller.

How many of the German world cup winners in 2014 would start for Arsenal today? maybe 2/3 ..... not Ozil he's no longer good enough.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:36 am

Put hardworking players around Ozil and give him his free role. He’ll get us 10 assists a season. At least until we buy more creative midfielders. Saka and Willian on the flanks and Partey and El Neny/Xhaka behind him.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:47 am

swipe right wrote:Put hardworking players around Ozil and give him his free role. He’ll get us 10 assists a season. At least until we buy more creative midfielders. Saka and Willian on the flanks and Partey and El Neny/Xhaka behind him.


Leaving room for just one of Auba / Laca / Pepe / Nketiah .... with your line up he might get 10 assists but we would be lucky to get 40 goals a season and probably end up in a relegation scrap.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:40 am

EliteKiller wrote:
swipe right wrote:Put hardworking players around Ozil and give him his free role. He’ll get us 10 assists a season. At least until we buy more creative midfielders. Saka and Willian on the flanks and Partey and El Neny/Xhaka behind him.


Leaving room for just one of Auba / Laca / Pepe / Nketiah .... with your line up he might get 10 assists but we would be lucky to get 40 goals a season and probably end up in a relegation scrap.

You think Laca, Pepe and Nketiah are top level? I guarantee you Saka and Willian will outshine those three in scoring while making Auba even more effective.
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