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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Tony Adams » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:32 am

swipe right wrote:Pick your combo in a midfield of 433

——Ozil
Xhaka—Partey

——Saka
Xhaka—Partey

——Ceballos
Xhaka—Partey

——Willock
Xhaka—Partey
I think we'll get Ceballos playing deeper with Partey on the right and Xhaka/Saka rotating on the left of a three man midfield.

I'd be happy with that btw
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:38 am

In an ideal 433 you would have an:
Anchor - Partey
Controller - Xhaka
B2B attacker - like a KDB which we don’t have right now

Till then I expect Arteta to play 343 with the additional creativity coming from Saka on the left and Lacazette dropping deep to bolster midfield.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:52 pm

4-3-3

Partey
Ozil - Ceballos
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Marsbar100 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:55 pm

Might need him back
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:59 pm

Arteta needs to grovel to Ozil to come back. Simple.
We need him badly.
No matter how bad it gets, at least we don't have to put up with Wenger anymore
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Tony Adams » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:12 pm

We really don't
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Godlop » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:15 pm

jayramfootball wrote:Arteta needs to grovel to Ozil to come back. Simple.
We need him badly.


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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:24 am

We are unable to create chances and yet leave this guy on the bench. Crazy.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:41 am

We need to bring back the guy who created just 3 goals in the whole last season - yup that makes perfect sense - let's just pray he's no longer a squad player come Monday then this sad fanboy nonsense can finally end.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:43 am

EliteKiller wrote:We need to bring back the guy who created just 3 goals in the whole last season - yup that makes perfect sense - let's just pray he's no longer a squad player come Monday then this sad fanboy nonsense can finally end.

So all of a sudden a world cup winner, 5 times German player of the year, Real Madrid star, 19 assists a season player has just become shit and he can’t get into the squad ahead of Dani Ceballos and Joe Willock? Yeah that makes sense.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby ag6789 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:48 am

Not suddenly. His decline had been steep over the past two years. Do not think he would changed much today. Probably would've pulled another Willian.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:28 am

swipe right wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:We need to bring back the guy who created just 3 goals in the whole last season - yup that makes perfect sense - let's just pray he's no longer a squad player come Monday then this sad fanboy nonsense can finally end.

So all of a sudden a world cup winner, 5 times German player of the year, Real Madrid star, 19 assists a season player has just become shit and he can’t get into the squad ahead of Dani Ceballos and Joe Willock? Yeah that makes sense.


It makes perfect sense - a player who hasn't performed for two years is no longer worth his place - I can list 200 world cup winners none of whom are remotely now worth a starting spot at Arsenal, time catches up with all of them in the end.

Manuel Neuer; Benedikt Höwedes, Mats Hummels, Jérôme Boateng, Philipp Lahm; Toni Kroos, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Sami Khedira; Mesut Özil, Miroslav Klose, Thomas Müller.

How many of the German world cup winners in 2014 would start for Arsenal today? maybe 2/3 ..... not Ozil he's no longer good enough.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:36 am

Put hardworking players around Ozil and give him his free role. He’ll get us 10 assists a season. At least until we buy more creative midfielders. Saka and Willian on the flanks and Partey and El Neny/Xhaka behind him.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:47 am

swipe right wrote:Put hardworking players around Ozil and give him his free role. He’ll get us 10 assists a season. At least until we buy more creative midfielders. Saka and Willian on the flanks and Partey and El Neny/Xhaka behind him.


Leaving room for just one of Auba / Laca / Pepe / Nketiah .... with your line up he might get 10 assists but we would be lucky to get 40 goals a season and probably end up in a relegation scrap.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:40 am

EliteKiller wrote:
swipe right wrote:Put hardworking players around Ozil and give him his free role. He’ll get us 10 assists a season. At least until we buy more creative midfielders. Saka and Willian on the flanks and Partey and El Neny/Xhaka behind him.


Leaving room for just one of Auba / Laca / Pepe / Nketiah .... with your line up he might get 10 assists but we would be lucky to get 40 goals a season and probably end up in a relegation scrap.

You think Laca, Pepe and Nketiah are top level? I guarantee you Saka and Willian will outshine those three in scoring while making Auba even more effective.
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