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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Godlop » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:15 pm

jayramfootball wrote:Arteta needs to grovel to Ozil to come back. Simple.
We need him badly.


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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:24 am

We are unable to create chances and yet leave this guy on the bench. Crazy.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Sun Oct 18, 2020 12:41 am

We need to bring back the guy who created just 3 goals in the whole last season - yup that makes perfect sense - let's just pray he's no longer a squad player come Monday then this sad fanboy nonsense can finally end.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:43 am

EliteKiller wrote:We need to bring back the guy who created just 3 goals in the whole last season - yup that makes perfect sense - let's just pray he's no longer a squad player come Monday then this sad fanboy nonsense can finally end.

So all of a sudden a world cup winner, 5 times German player of the year, Real Madrid star, 19 assists a season player has just become shit and he can’t get into the squad ahead of Dani Ceballos and Joe Willock? Yeah that makes sense.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby ag6789 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:48 am

Not suddenly. His decline had been steep over the past two years. Do not think he would changed much today. Probably would've pulled another Willian.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:28 am

swipe right wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:We need to bring back the guy who created just 3 goals in the whole last season - yup that makes perfect sense - let's just pray he's no longer a squad player come Monday then this sad fanboy nonsense can finally end.

So all of a sudden a world cup winner, 5 times German player of the year, Real Madrid star, 19 assists a season player has just become shit and he can’t get into the squad ahead of Dani Ceballos and Joe Willock? Yeah that makes sense.


It makes perfect sense - a player who hasn't performed for two years is no longer worth his place - I can list 200 world cup winners none of whom are remotely now worth a starting spot at Arsenal, time catches up with all of them in the end.

Manuel Neuer; Benedikt Höwedes, Mats Hummels, Jérôme Boateng, Philipp Lahm; Toni Kroos, Bastian Schweinsteiger, Sami Khedira; Mesut Özil, Miroslav Klose, Thomas Müller.

How many of the German world cup winners in 2014 would start for Arsenal today? maybe 2/3 ..... not Ozil he's no longer good enough.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:36 am

Put hardworking players around Ozil and give him his free role. He’ll get us 10 assists a season. At least until we buy more creative midfielders. Saka and Willian on the flanks and Partey and El Neny/Xhaka behind him.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:47 am

swipe right wrote:Put hardworking players around Ozil and give him his free role. He’ll get us 10 assists a season. At least until we buy more creative midfielders. Saka and Willian on the flanks and Partey and El Neny/Xhaka behind him.


Leaving room for just one of Auba / Laca / Pepe / Nketiah .... with your line up he might get 10 assists but we would be lucky to get 40 goals a season and probably end up in a relegation scrap.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:40 am

EliteKiller wrote:
swipe right wrote:Put hardworking players around Ozil and give him his free role. He’ll get us 10 assists a season. At least until we buy more creative midfielders. Saka and Willian on the flanks and Partey and El Neny/Xhaka behind him.


Leaving room for just one of Auba / Laca / Pepe / Nketiah .... with your line up he might get 10 assists but we would be lucky to get 40 goals a season and probably end up in a relegation scrap.

You think Laca, Pepe and Nketiah are top level? I guarantee you Saka and Willian will outshine those three in scoring while making Auba even more effective.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:09 am

EliteKiller wrote:We need to bring back the guy who created just 3 goals in the whole last season - yup that makes perfect sense - let's just pray he's no longer a squad player come Monday then this sad fanboy nonsense can finally end.

Using stats alone doesn't tell the whole picture. Ozil keeps the ball moving, we look like a more coherent unit going forward.

We look clueless at the moment. Any fool can set up a team to defend, that's why the likes of Pulis Allardyce and Hughes had jobs with duffer teams. Creating is an entirely different kettle of fish, its why Wenger was great, problem was he went too far and neglected defending.

Its easier to destroy than it is to create. Ozil needs to play.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby VCC » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:17 am

swipe right wrote:We are unable to create chances and yet leave this guy on the bench. Crazy.

He actually doesn't make the bench
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:33 am

swipe right wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:We need to bring back the guy who created just 3 goals in the whole last season - yup that makes perfect sense - let's just pray he's no longer a squad player come Monday then this sad fanboy nonsense can finally end.

So all of a sudden a world cup winner, 5 times German player of the year, Real Madrid star, 19 assists a season player has just become shit and he can’t get into the squad ahead of Dani Ceballos and Joe Willock? Yeah that makes sense.

Exactly. Willock he last season averaged 11 passes per game and Ceballos who plays deep in the middle averaged 52, Ozil averaged 46. Ceballos who has been one of the better players this season averages 55 passes.

He is on the ball more, we keep the ball better when Ozil plays.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sun Oct 18, 2020 6:38 am

EliteKiller wrote:
swipe right wrote:Put hardworking players around Ozil and give him his free role. He’ll get us 10 assists a season. At least until we buy more creative midfielders. Saka and Willian on the flanks and Partey and El Neny/Xhaka behind him.


Leaving room for just one of Auba / Laca / Pepe / Nketiah .... with your line up he might get 10 assists but we would be lucky to get 40 goals a season and probably end up in a relegation scrap.

No, you need one decent defensive midfielder to free up Ozil, you dont need 2.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sun Oct 18, 2020 9:37 am

theHotHead wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:
swipe right wrote:Put hardworking players around Ozil and give him his free role. He’ll get us 10 assists a season. At least until we buy more creative midfielders. Saka and Willian on the flanks and Partey and El Neny/Xhaka behind him.


Leaving room for just one of Auba / Laca / Pepe / Nketiah .... with your line up he might get 10 assists but we would be lucky to get 40 goals a season and probably end up in a relegation scrap.

No, you need one decent defensive midfielder to free up Ozil, you dont need 2.

Auba
Saka Ozil Willian
Xhaka Partey
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Santi » Sun Oct 18, 2020 10:28 am

Would’ve won yesterday with Ozil
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