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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Ach » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:43 pm

We'd have moses and young as wing backs.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:11 pm

Arteta's one size fits all authoritarian approach to management has been the one (big) downside of what I have seen from him so far.
The problem with his style is that it's great when we're winning, but quickly turns to sh*t when the going gets tough.
The players will abandon him at the first opportunity to shift blame from themselves when it goes badly.
You can't manage a team of millionaires by fear for very long.
No matter how bad it gets, at least we don't have to put up with Wenger anymore
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby EliteKiller » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:50 pm

Power n Glory wrote:Gazidis, Kroenke, Josh and Wenger can all take responsibility for that contract. I don't think he came up with the bonus structure and finer details but I don't think he was ignorant of it. I also don't think it was something he stood against otherwise he wouldn't be out here saying Ozil should play. He'd probably be preaching about the dangers of massive contracts in the modern game.


Let's not rewrite history, Wenger came up with the socialist wages policy, Wenger was the one who said long contracts were a thing of the past and all players will be moving on free transfers, Wenger ws the one who said wages not transfer fees will be the determining factors. Josh and Gazidis bought in hook line and sinker but the philosophy was all Wenger, remember this interview back in 2016/7

But Arsene warned: “With the amount of transfer levels and the expected amount of contracts the players want, you will have more and more players going into the final year of their contract,

“You will be in a position where you either extend for money you cannot afford or you go into the final year of their contract.

“This season there were 107 players in the Premier League who got into the final year of their contract for the first time and you will see that more.

“The clubs want too much more for normal players. Because they say if one player is worth £200m, then this player is worth £50. But everybody knows for that player £50m is too much and they cannot afford it.

“So what happens? The club cannot sell and doesn’t extend the contract, so more and more players are going into the final year of their contract.”

"To get the best players you will have to pay very high money, contracts will become very short"
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby gamechannel » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:01 am

A sad ending to his Arsenal career. Insulted, humiliated and discarded.

Arteta is the manager so his decision must be respected. But I do not, for one second, believe when he said everyone has a clean slate with the new season because all of the players he didn't want at the end of last season he ended up getting rid of including Torreira, Guendouzi, Ozil and Sokratis. His mind was made up. Ozil had no chance even if he trained the best out of everyone.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sat Oct 17, 2020 12:58 am

Still cannot understand why he can’t be used selectively. Like against teams that sit back and don’t allow us to play our counter attacking football. Or when we are chasing goals in the final minutes of the game. I can only assume the club has to pay him some type of appearance bonus and therefore they want to eliminate his involvement entirely.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Sims » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:16 am

swipe right wrote:Still cannot understand why he can’t be used selectively. Like against teams that sit back and don’t allow us to play our counter attacking football. Or when we are chasing goals in the final minutes of the game. I can only assume the club has to pay him some type of appearance bonus and therefore they want to eliminate his involvement entirely.


The rumours are that his £350k p/w wages aren’t guaranteed, and that his base of £250k can reach £350k with bonuses

A 10 min cameo is not worth 100k p/w

Mesut’s not kicking up a fuss at all with this at the training ground, which speaks volumes
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:38 am

Pick your combo in a midfield of 433

——Ozil
Xhaka—Partey

——Saka
Xhaka—Partey

——Ceballos
Xhaka—Partey

——Willock
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:43 am

Ozil, Thomas, Ceballos
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Sims » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:18 am

Thomas, Ceballos, Saka/Willian
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Tony Adams » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:32 am

swipe right wrote:Pick your combo in a midfield of 433

——Ozil
Xhaka—Partey

——Saka
Xhaka—Partey

——Ceballos
Xhaka—Partey

——Willock
Xhaka—Partey
I think we'll get Ceballos playing deeper with Partey on the right and Xhaka/Saka rotating on the left of a three man midfield.

I'd be happy with that btw
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby swipe right » Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:38 am

In an ideal 433 you would have an:
Anchor - Partey
Controller - Xhaka
B2B attacker - like a KDB which we don’t have right now

Till then I expect Arteta to play 343 with the additional creativity coming from Saka on the left and Lacazette dropping deep to bolster midfield.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sat Oct 17, 2020 8:52 pm

4-3-3

Partey
Ozil - Ceballos
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Marsbar100 » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:55 pm

Might need him back
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:59 pm

Arteta needs to grovel to Ozil to come back. Simple.
We need him badly.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Tony Adams » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:12 pm

We really don't
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