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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Callum » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:04 pm

StockGooner wrote:
Callum wrote:
VCC wrote:Should make him sell programs

"Unreal movement from Ozil there to find the guy with three kids who all want a program"


"He only sold one program all weekend"

"Yeh, but should have sold three, so his XSold is 3. It's not his fault the editor put the picure of Mustafi on the front. He's a world class seller, our only world class seller"

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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Sun Sep 20, 2020 8:34 pm

Looooool
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Angelito » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:00 am



Watch from 8:00 for the Ozil part.

But the whole thing is pretty interesting. Sherwood mostly speaking sense (like 80% of what he said).
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby VCC » Mon Sep 21, 2020 9:15 am

Angelito wrote:

Watch from 8:00 for the Ozil part.

But the whole thing is pretty interesting. Sherwood mostly speaking sense (like 80% of what he said).

The guys an idiot
In one sentence he says Arsenal are short of CB and Holding isn't good enough, then in the next breath he says they need to play Ozil to open teams up, a man that may as well go and sit on the side line when the opposition has the ball , yeah right that will work
Imo Willian has offered more in two games than Ozil in two years
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Mon Sep 21, 2020 11:21 am

VCC, Ozil vs Leicester 2018/19 season proves your comment is incorrect
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Mon Sep 21, 2020 3:21 pm

Sherwood's brain is frozen in time when it's 2015 and he's still a PL manager, albeit one getting walloped by us in the FA Cup final with then-top players like Alexis, Ozil and Cazorla.

Wrighty is right again.

"If you buy into Arteta's game plan, then you're probably going to get in there"
"I just find it devastating that we can't get him (Ozil) to understand how integral it is to what we could be doing right now".

Wrighty again: "I saw him the other day at the ground, he looked happy enough".
Other t**t: "I bet he did"

LOL!
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Angelito » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:04 pm

There's a serious breakdown in the relationship between Ozil and the club. He was left to hang out dry when he dared to speak against the treatments of Uyghurs.

Arsenal commented that the club do not get involved in political issues. Then, during the BLM activism, the club didn't have an issue demonstrating its support.

So, which one is it?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:16 pm

VCC wrote:
Angelito wrote:

Watch from 8:00 for the Ozil part.

But the whole thing is pretty interesting. Sherwood mostly speaking sense (like 80% of what he said).

The guys an idiot
In one sentence he says Arsenal are short of CB and Holding isn't good enough, then in the next breath he says they need to play Ozil to open teams up, a man that may as well go and sit on the side line when the opposition has the ball , yeah right that will work
Imo Willian has offered more in two games than Ozil in two years


Willian was dreadful in the last game.
Played well in the first game, but not as well as we've seen Ozil play.

But I will agree with you on Sherwood generally... absolute idiot. He knows Ozil is done so he's just trying to elevate the issue.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:17 pm

Angelito wrote:There's a serious breakdown in the relationship between Ozil and the club. He was left to hang out dry when he dared to speak against the treatments of Uyghurs.

Arsenal commented that the club do not get involved in political issues. Then, during the BLM activism, the club didn't have an issue demonstrating its support.

So, which one is it?



When it comes down to it, I suspect it's primarily about money.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Zenith » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:19 pm

Angelito wrote:There's a serious breakdown in the relationship between Ozil and the club. He was left to hang out dry when he dared to speak against the treatments of Uyghurs.

Arsenal commented that the club do not get involved in political issues. Then, during the BLM activism, the club didn't have an issue demonstrating its support.

So, which one is it?

Football clubs tend to support whichever cause that plays the same tune as that of the majority of the clubs' followers. In Arsenal's case, the club's following from China is thousands of times bigger than that from the Uyghur minority.

It's not an Arsenal-exclusive issue but one that is widespread across the world of football: from each big federation to every major club that has a major brand to protect.

It's sad, disgusting even, and—from a moral/ethical point of view—football is very two-faced in terms of the unity and division it creates.

Ultimately it all boils down to moolah.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Angelito » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:28 pm

Sherwood is an absolute idiot but he was right when he said that we need someone like Ozil. It's not nuclear physics, lads. We need a creative midfielder desperately.

When we signed Ceballos last season, I did tell you guys that Dani was a CM not a CAM.


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Angelito wrote:There's a serious breakdown in the relationship between Ozil and the club. He was left to hang out dry when he dared to speak against the treatments of Uyghurs.

Arsenal commented that the club do not get involved in political issues. Then, during the BLM activism, the club didn't have an issue demonstrating its support.

So, which one is it?

Football clubs tend to support whichever cause that plays the same tune as that of the majority of the clubs' followers. In Arsenal's case, the club's following from China is thousands of times bigger than that from the Uyghur minority.

It's not an Arsenal-exclusive issue but one that is widespread across the world of football: from each big federation to every major club that has a major brand to protect.

It's sad, disgusting even, and—from a moral/ethical point of view—football is very two-faced in terms of the unity and division it creates.

Ultimately it all boils down to moolah.


Absolutely.

It's all about the money. It's also about the backlash from segments of the population. There's no ramifications in speaking for issues predominantly plaguing the Western world. But when it comes to issues in China, they will remain numb because China is highly sensitive and won't sit back quietly if an organization or a country speaks against its actions.

Morality doesn't exist in the corporate or political world. That's why I find the whole liberals/left vs conservatives/right argument hilarious. It's not about issues. It's about convenience and ultimately, what benefits an organization/individual.

Everything is about capital.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Mon Sep 21, 2020 4:59 pm

This doesn't have shit to do with China. EPL isn't even being broadcast there this season because the Chinese TV partner didn't pay the fees for 2019/20.

Ozil started 10 games under Arteta, months after making those comments.

And yes, PL support for BLM is performative at best. It won't do a damn thing to change systemic racism in football, healthcare, employment, education or law enforcement. It just lets the powers that be pat themselves on the back at no cost to themselves.

English Premier League Terminates China TV Agreement Amid Dispute
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/03/spor ... ision.html

The league and its Chinese broadcast partner, Suning Holdings, a closely held company controlled by one of China’s richest men, had been locked in talks for months after Suning failed to pay the league $200 million in fees due in March, in the first year of a record three-year agreement worth more than $700 million.

The world’s most-watched sports league said it had canceled its biggest overseas broadcast deal, worth over $700 million. It was already facing heavy costs from coronavirus disruption.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby ag6789 » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:24 pm

Ozil should be given some minutes against Foxes just to see his readiness. If he's good for PL at all after such a long layover.
Until we get a proper CM, he should be put in shape to be a viable alternative.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Power n Glory » Mon Sep 21, 2020 5:53 pm

Funny enough, the last Prem game Ozil featured in was the home clash vs West Ham and it also took a late winner to win the game and finish 1 nil. Lacazette with the goal and an assist from Ozil.

We hardly created much and were lucky to come away with 3 points.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby jayramfootball » Mon Sep 21, 2020 6:03 pm

Power n Glory wrote:Funny enough, the last Prem game Ozil featured in was the home clash vs West Ham and it also took a late winner to win the game and finish 1 nil. Lacazette with the goal and an assist from Ozil.

We hardly created much and were lucky to come away with 3 points.


I remember that - it was a class cushioned header by Ozil after he beat the offside trap to lay it on a plate for Lacazette. Won us the 3 points.
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