Jedi wrote:Angelito wrote:Re: Vaccines
We haven't discovered vaccines for SARS and MERS so far.
It's been 8 years since MERS first erupted into the scene and 18 years since SARS-CoV became an endemic even though it's first cases go back to the 60s. It simply was an endemic before unlike this novel Coronavirus.
Why the fvck would anyone look for a vaccine for a Virus that's been contained in 2004. Neither virus has had more than a few thousand cases so there's absolutely no demand to create a vaccine which is a very expensive and complicated process.
My point is that there isn't a vaccine for SARS-CoV, not whether it was contained or not. There isn't. The first time the virus came into being was in the 60s. The difference is it wasn't a pandemic then as much as it was an outbreak. The vaccine wasn't discovered because scientists were unable to, not because they were unwilling to.
Not sure why you're getting itchy.
We don't have a vaccine for HIV either. But we know of the ways we can limit it's spread, or avoid catching the virus. Covid-19 is different, more complex. Just that.
Jedi wrote:Angelito wrote:While the research for SARS-CoV-2 virus is being conducted at an unprecedented volume, discovery and safe administration of a virus is a phase that spans a decade more or less, if it's ever discovered.
The three are similar as they're all single-stranded RNA viruses.
There's hoping and there's being specific. In my estimation, Covid-19 is here to stay for the next 40-50 years. There might be a sudden boom in scientific technology that enables the discovery of a vaccine, but as it stands, it looks unlikely that Covid-19 just disappears. What makes it even more lethal is the airborne transmission, which isn't the case for MERS.
Vaccines might build our immunity against the virus. But the virus won't just disappear. That's not how viruses work.
We might have to learn to live with it. Wearing masks, washing hands, physical distancing, and using sanitizers might as well become the norm for us now.
Unless there's a groundbreaking discovery, the literature we have so far, and the nature of these RNA viruses, we are looking at a generation that will be defined as the Corona generation in forty year's time.
Gloomy as it may sound, life as we have known it, has ceased.
All of this is nonsense based on everything we've heard from leading experts in the field.
Mass production of vaccines is most likely going to start very soon (early 2021) and when it does things are going to go back to normal. Yes, the virus will remain in circulation for many years/decades to come but it's going to lose a lot of its potency and yearly vaccination for elderly and other risk groups will help curb it even more.
Bold #1 - Yes, that's what is planned, but it remains uncertain. Top experts have also said that vaccine is unlikely before the end of 2021. So, I'd be wary if someone proposed mass distribution of a vaccine that hasn't been discovered yet.
Virology and vaccination is a complex field. It's not as clear cut as spending billions in developing vaccines against it. The current lot of research is based on building immunity against the virus, not eliminating it, as I have mentioned.
Bold #2 That's the whole gist of what I just said. The Coronavirus will remain. Life, as we knew it, will and has changed. The vaccine will work in preventing mass transmission but vaccination is a complex science.
When will we have a coronavirus vaccine?
A vaccine would normally take years, if not decades, to develop. Researchers hope to achieve the same amount of work in only a few months.
Most experts think a vaccine is likely to become widely available by mid-2021, about 12-18 months after the new virus, known officially as Sars-CoV-2, first emerged.
That would be a huge scientific feat and there are no guarantees it will work.
Four coronaviruses already circulate in human beings. They cause common cold symptoms and we don't have vaccines for any of them.
However, no-one knows how effective any of these vaccines will be.
LinkBBCSo, when you claim that things are going to resume normal service once the vaccination is developed, you're on tricky territory. Your first assumption is that an absolute vaccine will come into being. I've seen no scientist be as sure as you are. Second, you think everything will return to normal once the vaccine is out, which again, is only you being certain, not virologists and pandemic experts.
So, chill the eff off.