GunnerRobert wrote:UFGN wrote:Pat Rice in Short Shorts wrote:What a stupid thing to say. Of course it matters that what Johnson has done is not what I want. It is the mark of an absolute moron to admire a politician just because they do what they say they will. If what they are doing isn't what I want to happen, of course I want them to fail. You sound like a Trump automaton.
What you are ignoring is that Boris won in a landslide and thus having implemented what he said he would do that does make a huge difference for the majority of Britons. Trump the same in America. The difference is that Boris is indeed a life long politician while Trump was not. That on its face places Boris well up there on the scale of politicians.
As for wanting someone in leadership to fail is really quite bizarre to me. The reality is that there are competing ideas as to make the country in question better for all. Everyone should be able to set aside their concrete tribal thinking and at least hope the person or party elected will succeed because the nation will too. That does not mean simplistically being a f***ing turnip, it means offering up better solutions, working to make the policies on offer better and obviously winning over the electorate by offering those policies for them to take a gander. Demonization...childish really. Civil and respectful disagreement on policy...what democracy is really about.
Could you name a "Trump automaton" for me? Exclude me please, because it is not true. I employ logic and never have hitched my wagon to any politician, but rather to ideals as I suspect you do as well. (The ideals part! )
As I have had several friends comment, imagine the UK being led by Corbyn now. The nation saw him coming and ran the other way.
Imagine the UK being run by Corbyn now? OK, im imagining him spending shitloads of money, just like Boris is, and all the right wingers crying their eyes out over how irresponsible he was being.
By the way, Boris didn't win a landslide at all. He won 300K more votes than last time, and a majority of 80 is pretty normal.
Trump was not backed by a majority of Americans at all, so your statement there is false.
The issue with Corbyn was his competence. The front team was not fit to run the country.
Mind, Raab and co are hardly beacons of competence.
I think in many situations he would have been crap but this isn't one of them. I think he would have been OK at dealing with this and I think red John as chancellor right now would have been in his element. But I repeat, imagine those two having to spend money like the Tories are doing right now. All the right wing boys snidely calling for unity and saying the situation is "above politics" would have been chewing their hands off with fury at how Corbyn was wrecking the economy.