Yorkyblue wrote:I don't even care if football comes back or not. I just don't agree with reasons I read to not have it back. I work for the NHS, I'm not 'bored' and in need of entertainment. Infected left right and centre? its under 1% which would be massively lower than the rest of the country if everyone had been tested.
My family is far from immortal. People know about my sisters previous condition and family from this very forum she owns. She's still out there protecting lives. My step dad is unable to have his latest operation and he's been attacked by cancer over and over for the last 30 years.
Its getting to the point when we are gonna cause worst harm to people and kill them that way.
Firstly, as an NHS provider thanks man. Your first hand insight is very valuable to guy like me who has long been skeptical of what I am being told by the media, the government and those who tend to depend on that information (verified or not) as the basis of their thinking.
A few months back I posted (parroted to be fair as it was my Doctor bro in Law who brought it up very early to me) something about the cure possibly being worse than the disease if we are not careful and that I feel that has proven to be correct on many levels. A complete shutdown when the virus was an unknown quantity was justified IMO. But there were many voices of reason who were warning of unintended consequences such as long term economic effects on businesses, mental illness, reversal of global anti poverty measures, massive tax revenue deficits, and as you point out collateral damage to people with other deadly conditions such as cancer or heart conditions who have died due to lack of care. Here in the US hospitals were empty or closed and people died. Businesses and jobs were lost in areas with no cases for hundreds of miles. When the general public is in a tizzy, re-enforced by repetitive single lane media reporting combined with massive condemnation of anyone holding a differing view...well then policy becomes opinion driven and thus political.
But now we have examples of what works in different situations and places. We know the risk to healthy folks in their prime is extremely low, despite the occasional outlier example of a 20 something dieing which is tragic for the person's family but statistically unremarkable. That is science if we accept it or not. Very little of this public response has been scientific nor coordinated...from total shutdowns to Brazil's cavalier and disastrous policies.
There are lessons to be learned and relearned as history does repeat...take what you read with a grain of salt especially when the message is that we are all going to die if we do not comply no matter the demand. Hyperbole works because many folks fail to see it for it is. Simplistic emotional reactions such as claiming the stock market is the paramount incentive of policy when it simply reflects sentiment of investors, either-or binary arguments such as 'stay inside or die' choices should be red flags to consumers of information.
Covid while being an unknown, but becoming far more a known each day will be a memory such as smallpox soon. The lessons learned will be invaluable going forward only if we as a society take heed of those lessons...or even be willing to acknowledge the lessons. I mean beyond the medical side of it, as in taking a step back and thinking it all through as in a cost benefit analysis, evaluating the information we relied on. I await after action reports that ignore the politics and don't care whose ox is gored. (I will not be holding my breath on that!) If we want to really understand the truth then we need to seek the truth and be willing to accept it. To do that we need diversity of thought. Something that was once treasured.
He/His/Non-Menstruater/Postmenopausal/non-vaginal male. Yup all man!
