jayramfootball wrote:UFGN wrote:You need the cooperation of families, of imams, and of teachers etc
If you lock people up and throw away the key, you are much less likely to get that. A mother, sister, imam etc is going to be less likely to pass information to the police about a young man who is showing cause for concern, if that person is then likely to be put away for 20 years
Thats just reality.
The police are struggling to ballance public safety with even handed justice. The answer is not to just bang people up for longer. Sadly, its more complicated than that.
But if there is a refusal to cooperate then those who knew something should also be punished, no?
If they knew someone who was going to go and commit murder and said nothing, what does that make them?
More importantly, more in depth investigations are required into who is radicalising these people.
You need good will from innocent Muslims who are not nutters, which is of course the vast majority of them. You cant just criminalise everyone.
Youre saying you want the whole family to get into trouble for not reporting their teenage son, who lets say has just gone on a rampage
I'm saying I want them to have confidence to come forward and speak to the police long before that happens, when maybe mum has overheard some worrying conversations, safe in the knowledge that her family will be treated fairly and reasonably.
Mums etc are not going to ask the police for help if they are scared of the police and they think their son’s going to get banged up for years and years