Santi wrote:elkanofan wrote:Santi wrote:Dear god, all this shite being thrown around.
14/15: Chelsea won the league.
15/16: Chelsea came 10th. Pretty much same squad (not going to check complete history).
16/17: Chelsea won the league.
Now tell me managers don’t matter and players who down tools suddenly aren’t good enough.
Difference is gigantic.
Mou had a huge meltdown, threw his squad under the bus and the entire squad rebelled against him.
Chelsea always had a top team. Their players could afford to down tools because they had the quality throughout the squad to go again, also they had WON the league previous season not finished 5th and have a team of winners, serious players who expect to win things NOW, not in 2-3 years while they take another selfie for instagram.
We have a team of douchebags and wussies. Arsenal do not have a good team in the first place to even get away with downing tools as we saw against Norwich.
Our players tried hard in that game but they really are that shit. You need to wake up Santi. Stop being so desperate, this is nothing like it was under Wenger.
You need to wake up and realized there is no easy way out of this. It maybe a long, long road back to even top 6 let alone top 4.
Our club is a total mess from top to bottom.
Lol alright I’ll wake up from my dream that Bellerin, Auba, Laca, ozil, Pepe, Tierney and Leno are all good enough for top 4. Really what am I thinking??
Let me help you with some ice cold water from the stream of reality in 2019 going into 2020 next month.
- Ozil isn't good enough for Norwich let alone top 4, he would just about make the top 10 players in the MLS even.
- Pepe is at best Andros Townsend with a french accent on a good day.
- Bellerin has never ever been a good defensive player that assures you of quality and isn't even back to his best level after a big injury.
- Tierney can cross, but again, very average defender, he's good enough for another top 4 team just about.
- Only Auba and Laca are good enough to get into the other top 4 squads outright.
Like if we had that Chelsea 10th place season we wouldn’t have had everyone on here going SELL WILLIAN HES SHIT SELL PEDRO HES NOT GOOD ENOUGH FOR A TOP 4 TEAM.
Then both won the league again. Look at the f***ing squad they won the league with in 2016/17 and give me a top class player outside of Hazard and Azpili.
Both Willian and Pedro are both comfortably more effective players than Ozil and Pepe are now let alone in 2016/17.
Conte simply played to the players strengths and it worked perfectly.
You completely forgot about Diego Costa too. Remember Costa hated Conte and look how well he did for Chelsea that season! That an example of real quality! You don't even have to like the manager at all to play well. its all about players taking responsibility!
Your posts concern me, your not ready for the massacres that are to come with this team. I don't know how your going to handle the next few months but these will be the very worst in Arsenals history since the early 80's maybe. Starman fill me in on this, when did we last go 3 months without a win in the league?
I'm at the point any win i'll be happy with however we play to get that win!
I care nothing about style right now. we need results!