by FARM » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:32 pm
by Phil71 » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:42 pm
FARM wrote:London has changed a lot since my days sadly, and much for the worse!. I moved out of London over 24 years old and after visiting last year I was ashamed to call in my birth place. Its unrecognizable. I don't know where I was but it was not the city I was familiar with when I was growing up.
by Zanatos3 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:24 am
Alexis wrote:apparently kola told mesut to drive away. both his wife and kola's wife were in the car and they pricks weren't after the car but mesut himself.
Also looked like they are carrying machete's or something and since they backed off when kola went tank mode on them, its clear they were just using it as a form of intimation and aren't actually experienced in this.
probably some scrubs off the street who lack brain cells and thought they'd make it big like in the movies or some shit.
meh, london's knife related crimes have been on the rise since last year. probably most dangerous place in the uk at the moment.
by EliteKiller » Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:36 am
by dc16 » Fri Jul 26, 2019 3:59 am
by north bank gooner » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:02 am
EliteKiller wrote:The guys on the bike possibly had no clue who was in the car ... sadly this is becoming all to typical, threaten passengers in a high value car with knives, looking for a quick buck with wallets and watches ... Kola was brave but also stupid ... you never open the doors or windows, just lock your doors and drive away ... the moped riders only have a couple of minutes frustrate them and they will run away ...
This type of crime is all down to the massive reduction in stop and search ... two men on a scooter? Police should be stopping and searching them every time ... but under the current inept major's guidance they simply can't do that ....
Even in the third world country I live in police stop and search motorbikes as a matter of routine ... gun or knife you're fined or arrested ... everybody knows it so nobody carries ...
by yadunoe » Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:56 am
by north bank gooner » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:12 am
Phil71 wrote:FARM wrote:London has changed a lot since my days sadly, and much for the worse!. I moved out of London over 24 years old and after visiting last year I was ashamed to call in my birth place. Its unrecognizable. I don't know where I was but it was not the city I was familiar with when I was growing up.
For the most part it's f***ing awful.
I only live in it now for convenience.
If I didn't work in London I'd move tomorrow.
by Royal Gooner » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:36 am
by Zedie » Fri Jul 26, 2019 6:49 am
north bank gooner wrote:Phil71 wrote:FARM wrote:London has changed a lot since my days sadly, and much for the worse!. I moved out of London over 24 years old and after visiting last year I was ashamed to call in my birth place. Its unrecognizable. I don't know where I was but it was not the city I was familiar with when I was growing up.
For the most part it's f***ing awful.
I only live in it now for convenience.
If I didn't work in London I'd move tomorrow.
Thats a bit of a sweeping statement, yeah there are shitholes like Tottenham, Edmonton and Ponders End. But there are also some very nice areas like Muswell Hill, Crouch End, Hampstead, parts of Islington, Oakwood, Cockfosters etc etc.
Where this incident happened wasn’t a bad area either. With any major city in the world you have criminals and organised crime, go to places like Rio or Johannesburg and crime is rife. A lot more people get shot in the US than get stabbed in the UK. London is tame by comparison.
by EliteKiller » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:34 am
north bank gooner wrote: Just to educate you, it isnt police stop and search thats the issue in London/UK its police numbers that have been drastically cut under the current Conservative government since 2010. The Mayor doesn't control police budgets.The Mayor of London was given a direct mandate for policing in London in 2011, as part of the Police and Social Responsibility Act. As such, the Mayor is responsible for setting the strategic direction of policing in London through the Police and Crime Plan.
Less police on the streets have created an environment where criminals feel more comfortable carrying knives in the knowledge they simply aren't likely to be stopped because the police are spread very thinly in any area. I can tell you for a fact in my area I have seen police patrols on more than 3 occasions in the last few months. They are working in groups, pulling drivers over and interrogating them if anything suspicious is suspected.
I would suggest you don’t base your opinions on the rubbish people like Donald Trump spout, especially as with the Las Vegas and Miami school shootings well over 60 people where killed and thats just the tip of the iceberg in the US.What the feck has some US buffoon got to do with policing London?
Social Media creates ignorance, which is bliss as they say,
Scotland Yard have increased the use of stop and search powers in violence hotspots by more than 400 per cent this year.
Sir Steve House, deputy commissioner of the Met, said that as searches rose, killings in target areas dropped by 30 per cent and knife injuries among the under-25s fell 20 per cent.
Officers in the capital carried out 9,599 stops in the year to April under powers that allow them to search anyone in designated areas even without “reasonable suspicion”. The figure was up from fewer than 1,836 the year before, a rise of 423 per cent.
Authorisation for designated areas under Section 60 of the Public Order Act
by theHotHead » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:35 am
by theHotHead » Fri Jul 26, 2019 7:36 am
by Sims » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:06 am
theHotHead wrote:If you don't like London you can f**k off out of it! Its where I was born and raised and wouldn't want to live anywhere else. About London is a shithole, if you live in a shithole thats your business, there are far more nice places than shitholes. Nothing worse than people that criticise the place they live in but are happy to be there to earn their living. f***ing leeches.
by north bank gooner » Fri Jul 26, 2019 9:29 am
EliteKiller wrote:north bank gooner wrote: Just to educate you, it isnt police stop and search thats the issue in London/UK its police numbers that have been drastically cut under the current Conservative government since 2010. The Mayor doesn't control police budgets.The Mayor of London was given a direct mandate for policing in London in 2011, as part of the Police and Social Responsibility Act. As such, the Mayor is responsible for setting the strategic direction of policing in London through the Police and Crime Plan.
Less police on the streets have created an environment where criminals feel more comfortable carrying knives in the knowledge they simply aren't likely to be stopped because the police are spread very thinly in any area. I can tell you for a fact in my area I have seen police patrols on more than 3 occasions in the last few months. They are working in groups, pulling drivers over and interrogating them if anything suspicious is suspected.
I would suggest you don’t base your opinions on the rubbish people like Donald Trump spout, especially as with the Las Vegas and Miami school shootings well over 60 people where killed and thats just the tip of the iceberg in the US.What the feck has some US buffoon got to do with policing London?
Social Media creates ignorance, which is bliss as they say,
The danger of thinking you know something when actually you know f**k all .... did you use Social Media? ...
So with stop and searches falling by over 75% you claim this is down to a 10% drop in police numbers .... I claim you're a total feckwit ...
To back that up: this year with no increase in police numbers but at last a change in the stop and search policy look what has happened:Scotland Yard have increased the use of stop and search powers in violence hotspots by more than 400 per cent this year.
Sir Steve House, deputy commissioner of the Met, said that as searches rose, killings in target areas dropped by 30 per cent and knife injuries among the under-25s fell 20 per cent.
Officers in the capital carried out 9,599 stops in the year to April under powers that allow them to search anyone in designated areas even without “reasonable suspicion”. The figure was up from fewer than 1,836 the year before, a rise of 423 per cent.
Authorisation for designated areas under Section 60 of the Public Order Act
So look at that - in the real world actually taking preventative action worked - sure police cuts haven't helped that's undeniable but the rise in crime has everything to do with the ridiculous mayoral political policies that have f***ked London with the rough end of a pineapple ... respect the police let them do their job, it's simple.