by swipe right » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:14 am
by Nuggets » Thu Jul 11, 2019 9:51 am
theHotHead wrote:Its the classic situation when a player is simply better than the players around him and on a different wavelength. No player in the Arsenal squad has come close to playing at the level Ozil has played at for a decade. He may not be at that level now but he is still head and shoulders better than most. The problem is consistency, how do we get the most out of Ozil? How do we make him more consistent.
Ozil is missing a Cazorla type player, with the technical ability and vision that is superior to most.
by thebigbangtheo » Thu Jul 11, 2019 10:48 am
swipe right wrote:Let’s make the most of him. Free role with two mobile CMs behind him and runners coming in off the flanks to feed off his service. Assists galore.
by Santi » Thu Jul 11, 2019 12:24 pm
aniym wrote:https://www.fenerbahce.org/haberler/kulup/2019/7/bilgilendirme-1
Fenerbahce release statement saying they cannot afford Ozil and have not contacted the player.
We have an £18m millstone around our necks thanks to Gaz and Wenger. Although I suppose they couldn't have known that he'd put all the money towards perfecting his cloak of invisibility.
by theHotHead » Thu Jul 11, 2019 3:09 pm
Nuggets wrote:theHotHead wrote:Its the classic situation when a player is simply better than the players around him and on a different wavelength. No player in the Arsenal squad has come close to playing at the level Ozil has played at for a decade. He may not be at that level now but he is still head and shoulders better than most. The problem is consistency, how do we get the most out of Ozil? How do we make him more consistent.
Ozil is missing a Cazorla type player, with the technical ability and vision that is superior to most.
You keep banging on that old drum lol
by Goonerz » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:22 pm
EliteKiller wrote:Is that the best we can expect? Fenerbahçe will take Ozil on loan but only pay 100k a week of his 350k salary ... so we would pay 12m next season to have him not play for us? .... might as well pay the 18m and have him as a back-up
by Goonerz » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:46 pm
theHotHead wrote:Its the classic situation when a player is simply better than the players around him and on a different wavelength. No player in the Arsenal squad has come close to playing at the level Ozil has played at for a decade. He may not be at that level now but he is still head and shoulders better than most. The problem is consistency, how do we get the most out of Ozil? How do we make him more consistent.
Ozil is missing a Cazorla type player, with the technical ability and vision that is superior to most.
by StLGooner » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:49 pm
by Power n Glory » Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:55 pm
swipe right wrote:To me it’s about what system is Emery going to play. If you play two CMs behind Ozil and two wingers you can give him the free role. Let him play between the lines and create opportunities. It just means everyone else has to work their socks off. It’s possible and it can work very well if the rest of the team covers for him. Even at his lethargic worst he is the one creative midfielder we have left. Putting another Torreira or Guendozi style player in his position is not going to help.
by Angelito » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:26 pm
StLGooner wrote:I can see it now, when Ozil has a good game this season all the Ozil lovers come out in full force and say "haterz on suicide watch".
Ozil has a bad game and all the Ozil haterz come out in full force and say "Ozil lovers on suicide watch".
by Goonerz » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:41 pm
thebigbangtheo wrote:swipe right wrote:Let’s make the most of him. Free role with two mobile CMs behind him and runners coming in off the flanks to feed off his service. Assists galore.
I'm of a similar opinion and to me that's pretty much the only way he should have been played from day one, and think le prof thought something similar when you consider the Coquelan, Santi, Ozil set up.
If he'd of got the upgrade to Coquelan we required and we hadn't misdiagnosed Santi's injury, isn't it likely that Wenger would still be here, with Arsenal still having it's identity for brilliant attacking, entertaining football prominent at the top tier of football?
Playing devils advocate, if Ozil was on say £180k pw, would he still have been embroiled in the furore surrounding his performance return of the last year or so, or would we have a greater appreciation of his skill set?
Personally, I believe that the fall out from his poor showing at the world cup and subsequent premature end of his international career for non footballing reasons, along with the emotional and psychological turmoil that inflicted, has not been fully appreciated and all too readily dismissed.
Players come and go, so we have all had to endure seeing a favourite depart the club at some point and we learn to move on. With that in mind, I would love to see him stay and start the season playing like Ozil circa 2015/16, then just before Christmas he's spotted having an ice cream in-between Lampard and Solskjaer.
by LMAO » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:45 pm
StLGooner wrote:I can see it now, when Ozil has a good game this season all the Ozil lovers come out in full force and say "haterz on suicide watch".
Ozil has a bad game and all the Ozil haterz come out in full force and say "Ozil lovers on suicide watch".
by StLGooner » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:46 pm
Angelito wrote:StLGooner wrote:I can see it now, when Ozil has a good game this season all the Ozil lovers come out in full force and say "haterz on suicide watch".
Ozil has a bad game and all the Ozil haterz come out in full force and say "Ozil lovers on suicide watch".
That's why I want him to go. It seems unlikely that he goes anywhere now, so this Soap Opera FC will continue its shit:
- Booing their own iconic players (just add Kosc as a new member now, if he forces the issue);
- Drama that surrounded Wenger for years;
- Why Ozil no play like Messi?;
- Alexis traitor—Imma gonna kill 'ya;
- Why Ozil worse than my grandma? Imma gonna kill 'ya - The Sequel;
- Honest Stan Kroenke will Make Arsenal Great Again;
- Monster Ozil crushes innocent Unai - Season 19/20
Every game we lose, this thread will be bumped up. The media will run its narrative about Ozil because he'd already be causing mutiny amongst our fans. In all of this, Unai, Raul, and Kroenke will go scotfree.
Soap Opera FC.
Please end this shit.
by StLGooner » Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:47 pm
LMAO wrote:StLGooner wrote:I can see it now, when Ozil has a good game this season all the Ozil lovers come out in full force and say "haterz on suicide watch".
Ozil has a bad game and all the Ozil haterz come out in full force and say "Ozil lovers on suicide watch".
My man is out here with both 2018 and 2020 vision
by Nuggets » Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:30 pm
Goonerz wrote:EliteKiller wrote:Is that the best we can expect? Fenerbahçe will take Ozil on loan but only pay 100k a week of his 350k salary ... so we would pay 12m next season to have him not play for us? .... might as well pay the 18m and have him as a back-up
But according to his blinkered disciples “He is a world class player, best No10, too good and big for a club lik Arsenal. We are lucky to have him. Deserves better than Arsenal. All clubs would scramble for his signature blah blah...”
Lol
And since our only world class player has been here (6 seasons) he has only ever been linked to PSG on loan, Chinese club, Fenerbahce on loan. Imagine a so called world class player only ever being linked to those sorts of clubs.
But but but he is one of the best players in the world