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Re: The definitive deadwood thread

Postby Power n Glory » Mon May 06, 2019 7:58 pm

Xhaka and Mustafi have to go. Xhaka being the priority.
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Re: The definitive deadwood thread

Postby Tony_Adams » Mon May 06, 2019 8:00 pm

Of all those listed, xhaka is one i'd be willing to give more of a chance to. At least he is aggressive. His free kicks and corners are useful too.
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Re: The definitive deadwood thread

Postby looper007 » Tue May 07, 2019 4:19 am

Tony_Adams wrote:Of all those listed, xhaka is one i'd be willing to give more of a chance to. At least he is aggressive. His free kicks and corners are useful too.


If the right offer came in, we should cash in on him. Just don't think he has the heart for it in the PL. He looks to me like a player on the way out.

I'd say we get good money for Chambers, he's coming off a decent season for Fulham. Elneny if can get 15 million, we be doing good. Mustafi, it be a great deal if we get 20 million for him. Miki if we can get 15 to 20 million then we be doing well. Ospina and Jenko we'll get as little as possible for either.

I'd keep Iwobi, Kos and Monreal as squad players. We just won't get rid of Ozil, I be surprised if he is anymore then a squad player next season. I wouldn't be surprised if Laca asks for a move this summer if we don't win the EL.

Emery has some job this summer, trying to get rid of the deadwood and keeping fan's happy with signings that won't be star names.
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Re: The definitive deadwood thread

Postby PairyGrows » Tue May 07, 2019 5:24 am

All right, let's go back to reality. If we don't make it to the Champions League next season (which is a very realistic possibility), we will have £45 million to spend in the summer. In today's market, that gets you one or two players. Quite frankly, that won't be enough.

But we can sell some of our players to raise funds, you may object. If we're going to offload a lot of the players mentioned on this thread, we're looking for cheap replacements. Is that what we want; cheap replacements for Mustafi and Xhaka? Absolutely not.

That being said, the most realistic option seems to be that a lot of the deadwood in our squad will not only stay but will also have more prominent roles next season. We have to hope they can deliver, but I'm not holding my breath.
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Re: The definitive deadwood thread

Postby Zenith » Wed May 29, 2019 9:37 pm

So. much. mediocrity.
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Re: The definitive deadwood thread

Postby jsmirman » Wed May 29, 2019 9:42 pm

Losmeister wrote:"We're reaching delusional levels right now. What is wrong with Arsenal fans ffs.

I feel our collective IQ has dropped significantly since Unai's appointment."

people thought it was all wenger ... once gone all would right itself.... our players arent that good. not good enough to counted in the best teams in europe.

coming to terms with what the club really is right now is mental anguish. rationality goes adrift.


Who in hell thought that?

Of course the damage that low ambition Wenger did to the club would be lasting.

I swear, nonsense like this makes me see red.

It's like blaming a party that takes power for a recession after those previously in charge tanked the whole economy. The damage to this club was done year after year after year. Of course it's going to take time, good decisions, and a lot of determination to turn that around. My fear is that the Kroenkes are very much not up to that task.
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Re: The definitive deadwood thread

Postby Power n Glory » Wed May 29, 2019 9:49 pm

We signed Sokratis, Lichtsteiner, Leno, Guendouzi and Torreira this season. Most are defensive players and haven't made a bit of difference to our defending this season. We need to nail down a system and get to work this summer because we don't have the money to spend huge in bulk. Cesc is making a great point about Sarri on BT Sports on how he was able to change the system and philosophy in a short period without being able to replace every Chelsea player.
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Re: The definitive deadwood thread

Postby Tony_Adams » Wed May 29, 2019 9:51 pm

Deadwood:
Lichtsteiner
Jenkinson
Koscielny
Mustafi
Monreal
Elneny
Welbeck
Mkhitaryan
Ozil

Need a loan:
Mavropanos
Iwobi
Any youngster not listed

Fine as starters:
Leno
Sokratis
Torreira
Aubameyang
Lacazette

Fine as back up/squad players:
Holding
Maitland-Niles
Kolasinac
Guendouzi
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Re: The definitive deadwood thread

Postby Tony_Adams » Wed May 29, 2019 9:52 pm

Power n Glory wrote:We signed Sokratis, Lichtsteiner, Leno, Guendouzi and Torreira this season. Most are defensive players and haven't made a bit of difference to our defending this season. We need to nail down a system and get to work this summer because we don't have the money to spend huge in bulk. Cesc is making a great point about Sarri on BT Sports on how he was able to change the system and philosophy in a short period without being able to replace every Chelsea player.
We still had kos and mustafi though. Holding and Bellerin had long term injuries.
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Re: The definitive deadwood thread

Postby Power n Glory » Wed May 29, 2019 10:16 pm

Tony_Adams wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:We signed Sokratis, Lichtsteiner, Leno, Guendouzi and Torreira this season. Most are defensive players and haven't made a bit of difference to our defending this season. We need to nail down a system and get to work this summer because we don't have the money to spend huge in bulk. Cesc is making a great point about Sarri on BT Sports on how he was able to change the system and philosophy in a short period without being able to replace every Chelsea player.
We still had kos and mustafi though. Holding and Bellerin had long term injuries.


There have been some poor collective performances, but looking at their individual performances this season, I think they have all had some really poor performances with errors that have costs us which can't really be pinned on having weaker players in the team.

If they were all solid and consistent performers each week, I'd agree but they haven't really. Are we now banking on hoping to see a more solid and consistent performance from them once we've shifted out the rest of the dead wood? I don't really think that's fair and it sort of papers over the cracks. Not saying we need to move them on but they all need to up their game regardless of who they're standing next to.
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