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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Ach » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:17 pm

Lol stopped reading after the first line cos that's wrong but it's cool. I have no intention of doing this once more which is why I rarely take part in it.

My original post which you quoted was just friendly neighborhood advice to a newcomer on here.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Rockape » Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:48 pm

Ozil is like the little girl, Who had a little curl, right in the middle of her forehead.

When he was good, he was very very good, but when he was bad he was horrid.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Marsbar100 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:36 pm

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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Ach » Thu Jan 10, 2019 7:39 pm

Kola is awesome
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Goonerz » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:31 pm

theHotHead wrote:
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aniym wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:We really have to stop dealing in hypotheticals with this Ozil debate. I still can't understand why he isn't getting more assists for Lacazette and Aubameyang. I always thought he'd flourish once we had taken Giroud out of the starting line and put pacey strikers up front.


Majority of Ozil assists in his best ever season for us came from passes to Giroud.

It’s a myth about how Ozil would destroy the assist record if he was in the City team with Aguero.
The guy had one of the greatest players / goal machine to ever grace the world of football (C.Ronaldo), he also had the likes of Bezema and Higuain etc. But I cannot recall him ever hitting 19 or 20 assists in the La Liga. But he had 19 assist with the so called donkey / lamppost Giroud in the EPL. And most of those assists were from free kicks and corners that were always very dependent on the likes of Giroud or our defenders convert. They were 50/50 chances and the moment the luck ran out it all dried up.

You clown!! In his 3 seasons at Real he got 19, 19 and 16 assists in La Liga

Ozil has never gotten 19 assists a season in la liga.
That is why 19 assists at Arsenal is the best assist season he has ever had in a league season.

His best was 17 assists in 2010/11 and then again 17 assists in 2011/12.

I don’t know what dodgy sites you are getting your information from.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Santi » Thu Jan 10, 2019 8:56 pm

god this thread is literally worse than GA on steroids shagging SuperJackyW
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:47 am

Ach wrote:Lol stopped reading after the first line cos that's wrong but it's cool. I have no intention of doing this once more which is why I rarely take part in it.

My original post which you quoted was just friendly neighborhood advice to a newcomer on here.

Exactly, one bag of foolishness in his post, thats why nobody responds to Goonerz.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Fri Jan 11, 2019 8:51 am

Goonerz wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
Goonerz wrote:
aniym wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:We really have to stop dealing in hypotheticals with this Ozil debate. I still can't understand why he isn't getting more assists for Lacazette and Aubameyang. I always thought he'd flourish once we had taken Giroud out of the starting line and put pacey strikers up front.


Majority of Ozil assists in his best ever season for us came from passes to Giroud.

It’s a myth about how Ozil would destroy the assist record if he was in the City team with Aguero.
The guy had one of the greatest players / goal machine to ever grace the world of football (C.Ronaldo), he also had the likes of Bezema and Higuain etc. But I cannot recall him ever hitting 19 or 20 assists in the La Liga. But he had 19 assist with the so called donkey / lamppost Giroud in the EPL. And most of those assists were from free kicks and corners that were always very dependent on the likes of Giroud or our defenders convert. They were 50/50 chances and the moment the luck ran out it all dried up.

You clown!! In his 3 seasons at Real he got 19, 19 and 16 assists in La Liga

Ozil has never gotten 19 assists a season in la liga.
That is why 19 assists at Arsenal is the best assist season he has ever had in a league season.

His best was 17 assists in 2010/11 and then again 17 assists in 2011/12.

I don’t know what dodgy sites you are getting your information from.
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Transfermarkt.com. I use it for 95% of my stats and its pretty much spot on. Looks like they may not be in this instance
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Sims » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:08 am

Assists on Transfrmarkt are dodgy and unreliable
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Power n Glory » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:37 am

Anyone know a good Android app for checking stats?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Power n Glory » Fri Jan 11, 2019 10:42 am

Anyone know a good Android app for checking stats?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Byron Gomez » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:51 pm

Flat track bully
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby theHotHead » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:22 pm

Byron Gomez wrote:Flat track bully

Well thats a load of old cobblers !! Flat track bully ? Lets see. I just looked at the breakdown of all of Ozil's league goals and assists and split them between the so-called top 6 (Man U, Man City, Liverpool, Spurs, Chelsea) and the rest of the league. the breakdown is as follows:

Goals/assists v top 6 - 16.
Goals/assists v rest - 70.

Doing some basic maths, 10 games are played against so-called top 6 teams in a season (26% of games) and 28 against the rest (74% of games)
Ozil has therefore scored or assisted 19% against top 6 sides and 81% against the rest. Considering it should be harder to score against top 6 sides it is clear that Ozil's numbers are almost spot on for what you would expect. A flat track bully would surely have his numbers skewed far more than they are.

For a comparison I'll do Eden Hazard and David Silva.
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Dynamite » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:23 pm

Sims wrote:Assists on Transfrmarkt are dodgy and unreliable


Based on what?
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Re: Mesut Özil (10)

Postby Sims » Fri Jan 11, 2019 3:31 pm

Dynamite wrote:
Sims wrote:Assists on Transfrmarkt are dodgy and unreliable


Based on what?


They tend to be generous with their assist giving, it’s usually the one stat which is categorically wrong - alongside transfer value, obvs

Understat, Squawka & WhoScored are the most accurate
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