redordead wrote:Come to think about it had he not inherited that back five and given he's diabolical dealings in defenders would he of Had as much success as he did in he's early years just a thought
No, you're absolutely spot on.
by Phil71 » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:31 pm
redordead wrote:Come to think about it had he not inherited that back five and given he's diabolical dealings in defenders would he of Had as much success as he did in he's early years just a thought
by Gunnerrob » Mon Apr 16, 2018 2:59 pm
by Va-Va-Voom » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:10 pm
Gunnerrob wrote:When Wenger came he was lucky that he inherited a defence that did him proud for some golden years.
by Zenith » Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:40 pm
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Gunnerrob wrote:When Wenger came he was lucky that he inherited a defence that did him proud for some golden years.
The Invincibles backline -
Lauren Campbell Toure Cole
All were Wenger signings and Cole came through the academy.
starmandb wrote:Seaman Dixon winterburn bould and Adams conceded 49 goals in 94/95 (Graham - Houston)
It still remains the worst home season I have ever seen and I have been going 48 years
A rejuvenated by Wenger defence conceded 17 goals in 98/99
In 07/08 almunia clichy sagna toure and gallas conceded 31 goals
Up until the implosion at Birmingham Wenger had done a fine job at arsenal
The real utter garbage is suggesting that he just walked in and inherited a great defence
It was beginning to leak and fail
He was that good
He ain't anymore
by redordead » Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:10 pm
Zenith wrote:Va-Va-Voom wrote:Gunnerrob wrote:When Wenger came he was lucky that he inherited a defence that did him proud for some golden years.
The Invincibles backline -
Lauren Campbell Toure Cole
All were Wenger signings and Cole came through the academy.
True.
Also this -starmandb wrote:Seaman Dixon winterburn bould and Adams conceded 49 goals in 94/95 (Graham - Houston)
It still remains the worst home season I have ever seen and I have been going 48 years
A rejuvenated by Wenger defence conceded 17 goals in 98/99
In 07/08 almunia clichy sagna toure and gallas conceded 31 goals
Up until the implosion at Birmingham Wenger had done a fine job at arsenal
The real utter garbage is suggesting that he just walked in and inherited a great defence
It was beginning to leak and fail
He was that good
He ain't anymore
by EliteKiller » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:00 am
by starmandb » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:17 am
Phil71 wrote:starmandb wrote:1st time we have lost 5 away league games in a row since 84/85
And the manager was sacked back then.
Same should happen now.
by Arsene Nose » Tue Apr 17, 2018 5:51 am
EliteKiller wrote:Said it before but it's worth repeating ....
Wonger inherited a club with the mindset 'they will not score' ... our mantra was '1-0 to The Arsenal' ... players would metaphorically 'die' to wear the shirt .... we were undisputed top dog in London
into that mindset came Lauren - Campbell - Toure - Cole and the Invincibles were created ....
BUT
the Invincibles failed to kick on, the tinkering began and by 2008 we were into the era of tippy-tappy ....
the Tippy Tappy era ended with no real success and we started the long slow decent to mid-table ....
Wonger will leave the club with the mindset 'meh' ... our mantra is 'win or bust' ... players now worry about their 'social media image' whilst doing pretty much what they want on the pitch .... we are no longer top dog in London
Sure in 25 years the game's changed, but you don't get this shite at Dippers, Spuds, City ..... a football club needs an identity what's ours?
That's Wonger's failure right there ... rode his luck but ultimately wasn't capable in the modern game ... nice guys get fecked' the trouble is he's fecked us right along with him, and we didn't get 8m a year for the privilege ..... our club The Arsenal lost it's way, lost it's identity, and lost it's connection to us the fans, it will take years to regain our superiority in London, if that's even possible, so if you credit Wonger for the good times, then you have to blame Wonger for the state we are now in .... he's a decade past his sell-by date, it's killing us .....
by Phil71 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:08 am
by KG3 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:44 am
Phil71 wrote:A simple chart I put together to show our decline since we last won the league in 04.
It shows how many points we were inside the Champions League positions each season.
Despite a brief upturn in 07/08, we have been on an obvious decline.Form.PNG
by Phil71 » Tue Apr 17, 2018 10:46 am
KG3 wrote:Phil71 wrote:A simple chart I put together to show our decline since we last won the league in 04.
It shows how many points we were inside the Champions League positions each season.
Despite a brief upturn in 07/08, we have been on an obvious decline.Form.PNG
You have too much free time bro
by Interest: waning » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:17 am
by theHotHead » Tue Apr 17, 2018 11:59 am
Arsene Nose wrote:EliteKiller wrote:Said it before but it's worth repeating ....
Wonger inherited a club with the mindset 'they will not score' ... our mantra was '1-0 to The Arsenal' ... players would metaphorically 'die' to wear the shirt .... we were undisputed top dog in London
into that mindset came Lauren - Campbell - Toure - Cole and the Invincibles were created ....
BUT
the Invincibles failed to kick on, the tinkering began and by 2008 we were into the era of tippy-tappy ....
the Tippy Tappy era ended with no real success and we started the long slow decent to mid-table ....
Wonger will leave the club with the mindset 'meh' ... our mantra is 'win or bust' ... players now worry about their 'social media image' whilst doing pretty much what they want on the pitch .... we are no longer top dog in London
Sure in 25 years the game's changed, but you don't get this shite at Dippers, Spuds, City ..... a football club needs an identity what's ours?
That's Wonger's failure right there ... rode his luck but ultimately wasn't capable in the modern game ... nice guys get fecked' the trouble is he's fecked us right along with him, and we didn't get 8m a year for the privilege ..... our club The Arsenal lost it's way, lost it's identity, and lost it's connection to us the fans, it will take years to regain our superiority in London, if that's even possible, so if you credit Wonger for the good times, then you have to blame Wonger for the state we are now in .... he's a decade past his sell-by date, it's killing us .....
Rolling on the floor laughing at your take on history.
by Nuggets » Tue Apr 17, 2018 12:54 pm
EliteKiller wrote:Said it before but it's worth repeating ....
Wonger inherited a club with the mindset 'they will not score' ... our mantra was '1-0 to The Arsenal' ... players would metaphorically 'die' to wear the shirt .... we were undisputed top dog in London
into that mindset came Lauren - Campbell - Toure - Cole and the Invincibles were created ....
BUT
the Invincibles failed to kick on, the tinkering began and by 2008 we were into the era of tippy-tappy ....
the Tippy Tappy era ended with no real success and we started the long slow decent to mid-table ....
Wonger will leave the club with the mindset 'meh' ... our mantra is 'win or bust' ... players now worry about their 'social media image' whilst doing pretty much what they want on the pitch .... we are no longer top dog in London
Sure in 25 years the game's changed, but you don't get this shite at Dippers, Spuds, City ..... a football club needs an identity what's ours?
That's Wonger's failure right there ... rode his luck but ultimately wasn't capable in the modern game ... nice guys get fecked' the trouble is he's fecked us right along with him, and we didn't get 8m a year for the privilege ..... our club The Arsenal lost it's way, lost it's identity, and lost it's connection to us the fans, it will take years to regain our superiority in London, if that's even possible, so if you credit Wonger for the good times, then you have to blame Wonger for the state we are now in .... he's a decade past his sell-by date, it's killing us .....
by Andrew » Tue Apr 17, 2018 2:33 pm