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Re: American Politics

Postby StLGooner » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:35 pm

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Angelito wrote:Then there's America (sorry LAGooner :( ) where 90% of the people don't understand socialism, where people are obsessed with race and ethnicity more than the other half of the world,


They are raised on "Socialism = Communism" ethos


Yep, you say the word socialism here and people think of communism. The narrow mindedness of the people here is killing us. I even argued with someone about this, gave them a whole article about how a democratic socialism would work here and they still just thought "communism". :BangHead:
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Re: American Politics

Postby UFGN » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:44 pm

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Angelito wrote:Then there's America (sorry LAGooner :( ) where 90% of the people don't understand socialism, where people are obsessed with race and ethnicity more than the other half of the world,


They are raised on "Socialism = Communism" ethos


Yep, you say the word socialism here and people think of communism. The narrow mindedness of the people here is killing us. I even argued with someone about this, gave them a whole article about how a democratic socialism would work here and they still just thought "communism". :BangHead:


You have public schools

Police

Army.... and healthcare for soldiers

Social Services e.g. child protection

Street cleaning and rubbish disposal

Libraries

Etc etc et fuckin c

But because these guys have been force fed Health Insurance Company propaganda from birth, then to add public healthcare to that list would be...... SOCIALISM boooo! Hissssss!
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Re: American Politics

Postby Zedie » Wed Jan 17, 2018 4:52 pm

Obama got attacked for putting mustard on his burger (unamerican), wearing a tan suit (unbecoming of a president) amongst other things.

If there are any right wingers on the boards, it'd be interesting to hear how they explain trump and his increasingly erratic behaviours, decisions and statements or what he's doing to the country via the Senate and exec orders.

How could you honestly argue that he's trying to make a positive change to America and the rest of the world?
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Re: American Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Wed Jan 17, 2018 6:28 pm

Zedie wrote:Obama got attacked for putting mustard on his burger (unamerican), wearing a tan suit (unbecoming of a president) amongst other things.

If there are any right wingers on the boards, it'd be interesting to hear how they explain trump and his increasingly erratic behaviours, decisions and statements or what he's doing to the country via the Senate and exec orders.

How could you honestly argue that he's trying to make a positive change to America and the rest of the world?


Quite frankly I wouldn't even bother ......... if you think you're gonna get an ounce of sense out of Right or far Left these days your reaching in vain.

Quite frankly I've never been happier to be Centre, only the loons inhabit the fringes and the fringes have become bigger than the middle ground these days.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Angelito » Fri Jan 19, 2018 5:08 am

The ongoing immigration debate:

Trump doesn't know how Diversity Visa Lottery program and chain immigration works.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics ... mmigration

The moron actually can't distinguish between legal and illegal immigrantion.

And there were people cheering for him in the crowd as he was blatantly lying about immigration rules.

If there were a Lord of Stupidity somewhere in the skies, he/she/it would be proud.

Hilarious.
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Re: American Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Mon Jan 29, 2018 12:19 pm

I'm not one for all this Left wing clap trap, picket line and stamp our feet like children having a tantrum ........... but in this case I say go for it.

Trump has proven himself unfit, unfit as a human being to be President, I thought the rousing nonsense would be dampened down when he took office but he's just a mess, completely unfit to hold office and has edged toward and courted the Far Right way to much for anything I'm comfortable with.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 51666.html

Brexit or no Brexit he should be told to fk off from coming here.

He has no class or dignity to be visiting our shores on a state visit.
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Re: American Politics

Postby UFGN » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:30 pm

Trump boasting he's got unemployment among the black population down to 6.3%

6.3% y'know

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Re: American Politics

Postby UFGN » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:48 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:I'm not one for all this Left wing clap trap, picket line and stamp our feet like children having a tantrum ........... but in this case I say go for it.

Trump has proven himself unfit, unfit as a human being to be President, I thought the rousing nonsense would be dampened down when he took office but he's just a mess, completely unfit to hold office and has edged toward and courted the Far Right way to much for anything I'm comfortable with.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 51666.html

Brexit or no Brexit he should be told to fk off from coming here.

He has no class or dignity to be visiting our shores on a state visit.



He accepted support during the campaign from the KKK without bothering to condemn them

I pointed this out to you at the time and you shrugged it off like it was nothing

Now you're not happy that he's cosied up to the far right?
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Re: American Politics

Postby Royal Gooner » Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:46 pm

UFGN wrote:Trump boasting he's got unemployment among the black population down to 6.3%

6.3% y'know

Rah


What was it even before?
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Re: American Politics

Postby Zenith » Sat Feb 17, 2018 12:52 am

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Re: American Politics

Postby UFGN » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:00 am

Zenith wrote:Image


Obvs need more guns then

Only a good guy with a gun can stop a......

Sorry, can't keep a straight face lol
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Re: American Politics

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:29 am

You know guns are sacred when it's white kids getting killed and the ruling party will stand there lile bush reading my pet goat on 9/11
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Re: American Politics

Postby DiamondGooner » Sun Feb 18, 2018 2:28 am

UFGN wrote:
DiamondGooner wrote:I'm not one for all this Left wing clap trap, picket line and stamp our feet like children having a tantrum ........... but in this case I say go for it.

Trump has proven himself unfit, unfit as a human being to be President, I thought the rousing nonsense would be dampened down when he took office but he's just a mess, completely unfit to hold office and has edged toward and courted the Far Right way to much for anything I'm comfortable with.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/ ... 51666.html

Brexit or no Brexit he should be told to fk off from coming here.

He has no class or dignity to be visiting our shores on a state visit.



He accepted support during the campaign from the KKK without bothering to condemn them

I pointed this out to you at the time and you shrugged it off like it was nothing

Now you're not happy that he's cosied up to the far right?


There is a difference though to trying to gain votes and what you do once in office.

Take UK politicians for e.g, they make all sorts of promises in campaigns but once elected they do none of it.
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Re: American Politics

Postby Özilfan » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:29 pm

UFGN wrote:
Zenith wrote:Image


Obvs need more guns then

Only a good guy with a gun can stop a......

Sorry, can't keep a straight face lol


10x as many murders by gun in Ireland as in the UK. In fact, there's a smaller difference in gun related deaths between Ireland the US than there is between Ireland and the UK. That's a very interesting stat and tells me they should be doing a lot better over in the so-called "Emerald Isle".
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Re: American Politics

Postby Özilfan » Sun Feb 18, 2018 6:31 pm

aniym wrote:You know guns are sacred when it's white kids getting killed and the ruling party will stand there lile bush reading my pet goat on 9/11


Good point. Everyone used to say that no-one did anything about guns when it was just black folk getting killed. But that's clearly bollocks. They don't give a shit about anyone or anything as long as they can legally own assault rifles, machine guns and rocket launchers before they're old enough to buy beer.
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