Goonerz wrote:Angelito wrote:theHotHead wrote:diesel wrote:Oh the reason he's here is wenger is it? Not the 60,000 mugs that sing his name, pay his wages and who suffer, come hell or high water for the club we love? Well, fvck off then and any player that doesn't want to give everything can fvck off as well. Ambition and passion to be successful for the badge and being frustrated when it doesn't happen I have no problem, but someone who is in any job only for his immediate manager and come to that an immediate manager who no longer has the ruthlessness or desire to be a true winner shows a lack of ambition and disrespect to my (our) club. They can both p*ss off.
I never really used to look at it like that but you are absolutely right; if a player is only here because of the manager, if that player feels no affinity or loyalty to the fans and the club he represents he is nothing but a charlatan, a mercenary.
I love Ozil, but to be honest if the manager is more important to him than the fans and the club itself then .. loving Ozil will be much harder for me
Understand one thing: Ozil rejected David Moyes' ManU and PSG to come to Arsenal because he believed in Wenger's philosophy.
Now, consider this - wouldn't he be concerned who'd replace Wenger if he retires at the end of the season? He rejected Moyes because obviously, he didn't trust Moyes at ManU. And, he trusted Wenger's vision because, of course, Wenger is a superior manager but also has a history of assembling great teams in the past.
As a player, it's completely normal to behave in that manner. Let's say our board lose their mind and hire Roy Hodgson. If you're an Ozil or an Alexis, what would you feel? Precisely.
Conversely, if Simeone, Allegri, Klopp (wishful thinking), et al join Arsenal, both Ozil and Alexis would be okay with that.
I don't rate Moyes at all but it was the other way around.. Moyes was being vilified by the media and some United for not signing Ozil. He made it clear that he did not rate Ozil at all even if he was being pressured into buying him. Even some United fans had the same reservations about ozil like some of us, they were calling him overrated, hides in big games and too weak for the vigour of the EPL etc..
I don't think so. Moyes had no idea what he was doing at ManU. But the thing is, Woodward controls transfers at ManU. And he's always been the one for big names.
I don't think bigging up United or their entitled fans' opinion would serve as a veil to the biases against Ozil. Constructive criticism is fine; but to act like Ozil is a problem is defeating logic.