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Re: Aaron Ramsdale (1)

Postby theHotHead » Thu Aug 29, 2024 1:55 pm

firfi wrote:
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firfi wrote:
Santi wrote:Not really any different if he goes on loan or permanently, the opportunities for him to start don’t change. Ramsdale also will have zero say in whether it’s loan or permanent given his position, if he rejects a loan he’s sat in our bench all season wasting his career.

I’m not saying the fee is a surprise but it’s disappointing and I’d rather he’d gone to saints on loan and we try to shift him permanently next summer.


Yea ,but its very difficult to do loans on goalkeepers in the PL honestly very few have been done in the past .Dean Henderson only comes to mind.

We have to be honest here we overpaid quite abit for him when we got him from championship club for 30mil for gk.

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But its difficult to do loans in the Prem lol



That wasnt loan it was buyout with 1 season delay.
It wasn't option.It was obligation to buy which is basically buying the player with 1 season delay.
He had that in the contract when we got him if he plays more than 50% of the games in the season we're obligated to sign him for a set fee.

It was a loan and as with a lot of loans there was an obligation to buy. It was a loan whether you want to admit it or not
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale (1)

Postby theHotHead » Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:00 pm

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Angelito wrote:What were guys expecting? A £25-30m fee for a player who had been relegated to the bench and barely featured at all last season?

We overpaid for Ramsdale when we first bought him. It's the same issue as with Vieira and Lokonga.

£18m is a good fee for a player of Ramsdale's caliber. Be glad that he's not going out on loan with a phony "option to buy," deal, or worse, a scenario where we'd have to pay him to leave.

I don't think we did overpay.

The issue is the way Arteta handled the situation and as usual drove down the player's value.

You don't go from best keeper in the league as voted by your peers to the scrapheap overnight unless the selling club royally f***ked up.



You don't get that nobody cares about those votes right?
Thats meaningless just something to make players happy.

You don't get that nobody gives a shit about your armchair opinion. If the club had not been stupid Ramsdale's value wouldn't have tanked. At the end of the 2022/23 season his value rose to £40m, that would indicate that, in fact he had a very good season, which aligns with him being voted best keeper in the league in that season.

Aren't you tired of me handing your ass to you in every conversation bro?! Come in man.
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale (1)

Postby Salibatelli » Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:29 pm

Got to say there was a real lack of interest in Ramsdale, the fact he’s going to Southampton a promoted side is testament to that.

If he was rated that highly outside Arsenal surely someone else would have come in for him, especially given the numbers, plus players from big clubs are usually more in demand, especially ones that were regulars.

I thought he was a great shotstopper but the uncertainty he displayed made us shakey at the back at times, he also use to make some very odd errors and he did get away with quite a few that could easily have gone in.
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale (1)

Postby TedLasso » Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:32 pm

Every team in the Premier League employs analytics teams that review keeper data. Ramsdale had awful numbers in 2023 and then didn't have a chance to improve them last season. Really tough to get buyers with that kind of performance data under the hood.
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale (1)

Postby Losmeister » Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:38 pm

TedLasso wrote:Every team in the Premier League employs analytics teams that review keeper data. Ramsdale had awful numbers in 2023 and then didn't have a chance to improve them last season. Really tough to get buyers with that kind of performance data under the hood.


you don't sink the ship to get more data on your #2 GK

Joan would get cup games ...I think
Kai Havertz nutmegged ur GK
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale (1)

Postby firfi » Thu Aug 29, 2024 2:59 pm

theHotHead wrote:
firfi wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
firfi wrote:
Santi wrote:Not really any different if he goes on loan or permanently, the opportunities for him to start don’t change. Ramsdale also will have zero say in whether it’s loan or permanent given his position, if he rejects a loan he’s sat in our bench all season wasting his career.

I’m not saying the fee is a surprise but it’s disappointing and I’d rather he’d gone to saints on loan and we try to shift him permanently next summer.


Yea ,but its very difficult to do loans on goalkeepers in the PL honestly very few have been done in the past .Dean Henderson only comes to mind.

We have to be honest here we overpaid quite abit for him when we got him from championship club for 30mil for gk.

Looooool

David Raya says hi

But its difficult to do loans in the Prem lol



That wasnt loan it was buyout with 1 season delay.
It wasn't option.It was obligation to buy which is basically buying the player with 1 season delay.
He had that in the contract when we got him if he plays more than 50% of the games in the season we're obligated to sign him for a set fee.

It was a loan and as with a lot of loans there was an obligation to buy. It was a loan whether you want to admit it or not



Thats just loan on words i don't even know how they use loan when the obligation to buy makes it not a loan by definition.
Clubs use that loophole to get out of FFP for a certain period of time.
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale (1)

Postby alexis2015finalgoal » Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:20 pm

Ramsdale had two good seasons for us. Yes, he made mistakes, but which player doesn't? it's disingenuous to say he was crap. I bet most fans at the end of 22/23 were happy with him.
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale (1)

Postby theHotHead » Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:54 am

TedLasso wrote:Every team in the Premier League employs analytics teams that review keeper data. Ramsdale had awful numbers in 2023 and then didn't have a chance to improve them last season. Really tough to get buyers with that kind of performance data under the hood.

I hear what you are saying but thats where numbers are bollox!!

With my own eyes I was very impressed with Ramsdale, season before last, there were so many games where he kept us in the title hunt.

Add to that the fact that, we finished second, it is impossible to finish second in the Premier League if your goalkeeper isn't good!
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale (1)

Postby theHotHead » Fri Aug 30, 2024 8:56 am

firfi wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
firfi wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
firfi wrote:
Santi wrote:Not really any different if he goes on loan or permanently, the opportunities for him to start don’t change. Ramsdale also will have zero say in whether it’s loan or permanent given his position, if he rejects a loan he’s sat in our bench all season wasting his career.

I’m not saying the fee is a surprise but it’s disappointing and I’d rather he’d gone to saints on loan and we try to shift him permanently next summer.


Yea ,but its very difficult to do loans on goalkeepers in the PL honestly very few have been done in the past .Dean Henderson only comes to mind.

We have to be honest here we overpaid quite abit for him when we got him from championship club for 30mil for gk.

Looooool

David Raya says hi

But its difficult to do loans in the Prem lol



That wasnt loan it was buyout with 1 season delay.
It wasn't option.It was obligation to buy which is basically buying the player with 1 season delay.
He had that in the contract when we got him if he plays more than 50% of the games in the season we're obligated to sign him for a set fee.

It was a loan and as with a lot of loans there was an obligation to buy. It was a loan whether you want to admit it or not



Thats just loan on words i don't even know how they use loan when the obligation to buy makes it not a loan by definition.
Clubs use that loophole to get out of FFP for a certain period of time.

Yes, that is EXACTLY what we did, its still a bloody loan though!
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale (1)

Postby firfi » Fri Aug 30, 2024 10:41 am

theHotHead wrote:
firfi wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
firfi wrote:
theHotHead wrote:
firfi wrote:
Santi wrote:Not really any different if he goes on loan or permanently, the opportunities for him to start don’t change. Ramsdale also will have zero say in whether it’s loan or permanent given his position, if he rejects a loan he’s sat in our bench all season wasting his career.

I’m not saying the fee is a surprise but it’s disappointing and I’d rather he’d gone to saints on loan and we try to shift him permanently next summer.


Yea ,but its very difficult to do loans on goalkeepers in the PL honestly very few have been done in the past .Dean Henderson only comes to mind.

We have to be honest here we overpaid quite abit for him when we got him from championship club for 30mil for gk.

Looooool

David Raya says hi

But its difficult to do loans in the Prem lol



That wasnt loan it was buyout with 1 season delay.
It wasn't option.It was obligation to buy which is basically buying the player with 1 season delay.
He had that in the contract when we got him if he plays more than 50% of the games in the season we're obligated to sign him for a set fee.

It was a loan and as with a lot of loans there was an obligation to buy. It was a loan whether you want to admit it or not



Thats just loan on words i don't even know how they use loan when the obligation to buy makes it not a loan by definition.
Clubs use that loophole to get out of FFP for a certain period of time.

Yes, that is EXACTLY what we did, its still a bloody loan though!

If you you are obligated to buy him its not loan sorry. Loan is you take something for a certain time and bring it back after said period for a price.
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale signs for Southampton

Postby Zenith » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:57 am

Aaron Ramsdale signs for Southampton

Aaron Ramsdale has joined Southampton in a permanent transfer.

Aaron joined us from Sheffield United in August 2021 and made 89 appearances in all competitions. During his time with us, Aaron was voted into the PFA Team of the Year for 2022/23, a campaign where he was on the pitch for every single minute of our Premier League season.

He also won the Premier League Save of the Month award in both March and April 2023, and played a crucial part in our 2023 FA Community Shield victory over Manchester City, saving a penalty in our 4-1 shootout win at Wembley.

The 26-year-old goalkeeper developed through the Blades' academy, making his first-team debut at 18. He joined Bournemouth in 2017 and enjoyed loan spells at Chesterfield and AFC Wimbledon, where he won their Young Player of the Year award. He returned to Bournemouth, winning their Supporters’ Player of the Season award in 2019/20, before re-joining Sheffield United at the start of the 2020/21 season – a campaign in which he was named the club’s Player and Young Player of the Year.

A regular for England at youth levels, Aaron won the UEFA Under-19s Championships in 2017, and made his full England debut in November 2021. He was in the England squads which reached the Euro 2020 and 2024 finals, and the quarter-finals at the 2022 World Cup.

Sporting Director Edu said: “We are pleased to have reached a very positive transfer completion with Southampton and Aaron leaves us with our best wishes. We thank Aaron for his performances for the club since joining us three years ago, and we wish him and his family well in their new chapter.”

Manager Mikel Arteta added: “Aaron has been a top professional since joining in 2021 and has made many contributions during his time with us. We thank Aaron for everything he gave to Arsenal and we wish him and his family the best of health, success and happiness in his new opportunity with Southampton.”

Everyone at Arsenal thanks Aaron for his contribution to the club and wishes him all the best for his future.

The transfer is subject to the completion of regulatory processes.

https://www.arsenal.com/news/aaron-rams ... outhampton

Aaron Ramsdale wrote:To My Arsenal Family

From the moment I arrived, I felt like one of you. All I ever wanted to do was give my all and try to get the club back to where it belongs. The connection that we had will stay with me forever.

This is a special football club that has come a long way in a short space of time and it has been a privilege to share so many great moments with you.

I look forward to returning soon, seeing some familiar faces and reminiscing on good times!

Thank you to all of my team mates for going to battle with me; we certainly gave it a good go and had some fun. Finally, and most of all, thank you to the Gunners for always being behind me! I will love you forever

See you soon.

Rambo

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Re: Aaron Ramsdale signs for Southampton

Postby Nuggets » Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:04 pm

Best of luck with your new team Aaron.
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale signs for Southampton

Postby Ach » Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:29 pm

Good luck to him
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale signs for Southampton

Postby Fran Solo » Sat Aug 31, 2024 3:05 am

We are EPL GK training ground.
Fabianski (Westham), Martinez!'(Austin Villa), Leno (Fulham), Turner (Palace) and now Ramsdale (Southampton).
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Re: Aaron Ramsdale

Postby Ach » Fri Oct 04, 2024 9:12 pm

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Fair play to the lad

Never good enough for us but says all the right stuff here

Wish him all the best for the rest of the season and beyond in the Championship
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