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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby UFGN » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:14 pm

Third party ownership is complicated but in principle and in practice it is wrong and must be snuffed out.

It does have echoes of slavery no matter how you look at it. Especially when you consider that, by their very nature, these arrangements are instigated with young players who have future earnings potential.

An 18 year old who desperately wants to get over that final hurdle and become a first team regular after years of training is not going to want to rock the boat. If an influential agent or other figure they trust tells them to "sign this, it'll get you some easy money up front and it'll be good for your career", they will do it and they're stuck with the consequences.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby chilon » Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:35 pm

As national team manager giving advice and discussing loopholes to get around 3rd party ownership bans (which is a cancer and a massive problem in South America) is absolutely worthy of termination.

Its just the real world. You have a job. You take an interview with unscrupulous people offering money on the side to get advice on how to circumvent the rules of your primary job? Any boss that found out about such a meeting would fire their employee under these circumstances. I would. I don't care if he is legally guilty of a crime, that is a major conflict of interest that would lead me to distrust that employee forever. Also, its not like Big Scam hasn't had some shady dealings in the past especially regards to his agent.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby chilon » Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:39 pm

UFGN wrote:
The problem isn't talking about Loopholes, the problem is the Loopholes themselves. Loopholes the FA have allowed to exist. And its the FA taking the moral high ground!


As many issues as the FA has, being against 3rd party ownership is not one of them. That issue is much more the fault of UEFA, FIFA and the South American federations which are all corrupt and shady as f*ck, even more so than the FA.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby UFGN » Wed Sep 28, 2016 4:44 pm

chilon wrote:
UFGN wrote:
The problem isn't talking about Loopholes, the problem is the Loopholes themselves. Loopholes the FA have allowed to exist. And its the FA taking the moral high ground!


As many issues as the FA has, being against 3rd party ownership is not one of them. That issue is much more the fault of UEFA, FIFA and the South American federations which are all corrupt and shady as f*ck, even more so than the FA.


I've not heard any strong statements from any senior FA figure condemning the practice. Now would have been the time to do it, but no, nothing.

If they can't control it and they oppose it then they must either clearly condemn it, or be labeled as complicit.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby elkanofan » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:08 pm

UFGN wrote:Third party ownership is complicated but in principle and in practice it is wrong and must be snuffed out.

It does have echoes of slavery no matter how you look at it. Especially when you consider that, by their very nature, these arrangements are instigated with young players who have future earnings potential.

An 18 year old who desperately wants to get over that final hurdle and become a first team regular after years of training is not going to want to rock the boat. If an influential agent or other figure they trust tells them to "sign this, it'll get you some easy money up front and it'll be good for your career", they will do it and they're stuck with the consequences.


Its the older generation who have all the power playing and manipulating the younger generation!

Jamie Vardy and Carlos Bacca have show players of all ages between 18-30 should be emerging in football with talent at all times, but these corrupt agents and businessmen would rather have everything centered around teenagers who are much much easier to manipulate and sign up into these practices than a 25-30 year old who has enough experience behind him to see who is a good man and who just wants to use him for money.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby Cripps » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:47 pm

So a few names have been mentioned.

Tommy Wright. Who? Even his own family probably had to wiki him to find out who the hell he was.

Some Leeds pub owner.

And I guess the big one is jimmy Floyd hasselbaink.

But the way the telegraph were Pabloing it up, you'd expect big names.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby AAIRE99 » Thu Sep 29, 2016 10:04 pm

This would only ever happen with the English national team.

Sam deserves his chance and should have been judged on the pitch, he should have been made england manager as far back as after sven.
in saying that this is the last place he will receive any sympathy one would imagine.
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