Corruption in British Football

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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby UFGN » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:17 pm

Once again it seems to be a case of journalists going for the lazy scoop instead of doing their job properly

There probably is corruption in English football, and I want it to be exposed if it's there...... I want to hear about doping or gambling syndicates if they are happening. But I couldn't give less of a toss about Big Sam stating known facts and arranging some corporate speaking appointments.

Telegraph have hinted at more to come...It had better be better than this
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby gooney » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:28 pm

[quote="UFGN"]Once again its a case of journalists going for the lazy scoop instead of doing their job.

There probably is corruption in English football, and I want it to be exposed if it's there...... I want to hear about doping or gambling syndicates if they are happening. But I couldn't give less of a toss about Big Sam stating known facts and arranging some corporate speaking appointments.

Telegraph have hinted at more to come...It had better be better than this[/quote]
They are doing their job though. You think journalist one day decides we gonna see if we can get anything out of this person? They have been told about Sams shady ways by others and decide to investigate. Reminds me of Bryan Robson and when he was caught. This things dont just happen. They have been tipped off by more than one person. Harry is even worse, but he has a lot of friends in the media and they would never sell him out because he take cares of them.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby Arsene Nose » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:48 pm

Glad to see this Fergie boot licker get his comeuppance. Shit manager who got his teams to stay up by playing the worst brand of football Europe has seen. Embarrassment for England.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby Nuggets » Tue Sep 27, 2016 4:50 pm

Arsene Nose wrote:Glad to see this Fergie boot licker get his comeuppance. Shit manager who got his teams to stay up by playing the worst brand of football Europe has seen. Embarrassment for England.


Amen to that, the man is a blight on football, his kick em to death tactics caused enough injuries.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby Angelito » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:27 pm

Sims wrote:Mancini


Would be a stroke of brilliance if FA can get him.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby elkanofan » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:27 pm

Sorry but there is something just so evil about the way England, the FA and the press run their shit! Its being exposed and they are falling over themselves now.

English football is corrupt but its evil because they are by far the best in the world at lying, getting away with it and convincingly making those who expose their evil look stupid.

What sam has said happens all the time every day, why are these bastards trying to expose him now?

England has just as much corruption as everyone else, its just time the people woke up and saw it rather than buy into the age old long lie that everything in 'Britain' (England bullying the other smaller nations) is fair and right compared to the rest of the world.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby Santi » Tue Sep 27, 2016 6:36 pm

yawn, gonna be hoddle as england fail manager 2k16
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby Monsieur Thierry » Tue Sep 27, 2016 7:54 pm

Big sam gone
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby 49Gunners49 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:47 am

The FA's hand was forced essentially. Big Sam's unawareness or disregard for the concept of "conflict of interest" was ultimately the reason for this sacking. He offered to speak publicly at events (which is fine), but also suggested that he would speak to selected investors privately (and in relation to young talent that could be acquired on a third party basis) - this would have been fine had he not been England manager. Say he provides advice on up and coming youngster "Joe Bloggs" and how they could be acquired in such a third party way. If he was to then select Joe Bloggs in the England line-up a few years later, transfer prices would inflate massively allowing the original investor to profit. The position of England manager that he held would have allowed him to manipulate the tranfer market.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby UFGN » Wed Sep 28, 2016 10:59 am

49Gunners49 wrote:The FA's hand was forced essentially. Big Sam's unawareness or disregard for the concept of "conflict of interest" was ultimately the reason for this sacking. He offered to speak publicly at events (which is fine), but also suggested that he would speak to selected investors privately (and in relation to young talent that could be acquired on a third party basis) - this would have been fine had he not been England manager. Say he provides advice on up and coming youngster "Joe Bloggs" and how they could be acquired in such a third party way. If he was to then select Joe Bloggs in the England line-up a few years later, transfer prices would inflate massively allowing the original investor to profit. The position of England manager that he held would have allowed him to manipulate the tranfer market.


Not really

Do you have any idea how shit England actually are? Any player talented enough to warrant attention from such investors would certainly end up in the England team on merit anyway. We have zero depth of squad.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby 49Gunners49 » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:06 am

UFGN wrote:
49Gunners49 wrote:The FA's hand was forced essentially. Big Sam's unawareness or disregard for the concept of "conflict of interest" was ultimately the reason for this sacking. He offered to speak publicly at events (which is fine), but also suggested that he would speak to selected investors privately (and in relation to young talent that could be acquired on a third party basis) - this would have been fine had he not been England manager. Say he provides advice on up and coming youngster "Joe Bloggs" and how they could be acquired in such a third party way. If he was to then select Joe Bloggs in the England line-up a few years later, transfer prices would inflate massively allowing the original investor to profit. The position of England manager that he held would have allowed him to manipulate the transfer market.


Not really

Do you have any idea how shit England actually are? Any player talented enough to warrant attention from such investors would certainly end up in the England team on merit anyway. We have zero depth of squad.


I get your point, not one that would be likely to hold up as an argument to save your skin though. From an economics and business theory point of view - it was an attempt to manipulate the market.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby UFGN » Wed Sep 28, 2016 11:18 am

49Gunners49 wrote:
UFGN wrote:
49Gunners49 wrote:The FA's hand was forced essentially. Big Sam's unawareness or disregard for the concept of "conflict of interest" was ultimately the reason for this sacking. He offered to speak publicly at events (which is fine), but also suggested that he would speak to selected investors privately (and in relation to young talent that could be acquired on a third party basis) - this would have been fine had he not been England manager. Say he provides advice on up and coming youngster "Joe Bloggs" and how they could be acquired in such a third party way. If he was to then select Joe Bloggs in the England line-up a few years later, transfer prices would inflate massively allowing the original investor to profit. The position of England manager that he held would have allowed him to manipulate the transfer market.


Not really

Do you have any idea how shit England actually are? Any player talented enough to warrant attention from such investors would certainly end up in the England team on merit anyway. We have zero depth of squad.


I get your point, not one that would be likely to hold up as an argument to save your skin though. From an economics and business theory point of view - it was an attempt to manipulate the market.


What I'm most annoyed about in all this is that people are talking about Allardyce when they should be talking about the issue

The problem isn't talking about Loopholes, the problem is the Loopholes themselves. Loopholes the FA have allowed to exist. And its the FA taking the moral high ground!
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby Zedie » Wed Sep 28, 2016 12:59 pm

49Gunners49 wrote:The FA's hand was forced essentially. Big Sam's unawareness or disregard for the concept of "conflict of interest" was ultimately the reason for this sacking. He offered to speak publicly at events (which is fine), but also suggested that he would speak to selected investors privately (and in relation to young talent that could be acquired on a third party basis) - this would have been fine had he not been England manager. Say he provides advice on up and coming youngster "Joe Bloggs" and how they could be acquired in such a third party way. If he was to then select Joe Bloggs in the England line-up a few years later, transfer prices would inflate massively allowing the original investor to profit. The position of England manager that he held would have allowed him to manipulate the tranfer market.


I really didn't get that third party part from what I've read tbh.

He discusses the third party thing, but doesn't explicitly say he'd oversea arranging these sorts of transfers in an advisory role.

Also, UFGN is bang on about the FA how are you going to punish someone for discussing a perfectly above board situation that only you have the power to do anything about.

All it takes is a one line amendment saying English football clubs cannot acquire third party owned players foreign or domestic and it's over.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby Royal Gooner » Wed Sep 28, 2016 1:52 pm

Zedie wrote:
49Gunners49 wrote:The FA's hand was forced essentially. Big Sam's unawareness or disregard for the concept of "conflict of interest" was ultimately the reason for this sacking. He offered to speak publicly at events (which is fine), but also suggested that he would speak to selected investors privately (and in relation to young talent that could be acquired on a third party basis) - this would have been fine had he not been England manager. Say he provides advice on up and coming youngster "Joe Bloggs" and how they could be acquired in such a third party way. If he was to then select Joe Bloggs in the England line-up a few years later, transfer prices would inflate massively allowing the original investor to profit. The position of England manager that he held would have allowed him to manipulate the tranfer market.


I really didn't get that third party part from what I've read tbh.

He discusses the third party thing, but doesn't explicitly say he'd oversea arranging these sorts of transfers in an advisory role.

Also, UFGN is bang on about the FA how are you going to punish someone for discussing a perfectly above board situation that only you have the power to do anything about.

All it takes is a one line amendment saying English football clubs cannot acquire third party owned players foreign or domestic and it's over.



Can't do that......yet. Same reason why they couldn't do the 6-5 proposal. EU free movement and common market laws would prevent the FA from being able to do that.
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Re: Corruption in British Football

Postby Zedie » Wed Sep 28, 2016 2:02 pm

How many people own a player has nothing to do with whether they are allowed in the country or not.

Edit - it's already been banned by fifa.

Third-party ownership in association football is the ownership of a player's economic rights by third-party sources, such as football agents, sports-management agencies, or other investors. Note that this differs from co-ownership in football, in that system the player's transfer rights are shared with another club.

The involvement of investors in the 'ownership' of players is a common practice in football, particularly in Brazil and Argentina, where many clubs are insolvent or financially limited. Businessmen or other investors buy shares in the economic rights of young players and often cover the costs of their training and accommodation. In return they are entitled to a percentage of a player's future transfer fee.[1]

In April 2015, FIFA announced the banning of third-party ownership, and specifically prohibited either clubs or players from entering into economic rights agreements with third-party investors.[2] The ban took effect on 1 May 2015. The European Parliament also announced a similar ban in European sports on 11 November 2015 following the passing of Rule 136 of Parliament’s Rules of Procedure. In a written declaration, the European Parliament states that third-party ownership raises concerns over the integrity of competitions and introduces risks of criminal activities into sports.[3]
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