Omari Hutchinson joins Chelsea

[UFGN]

What the f**k is going on

[Ach]

We'll get him back when he's 30+

[alexafc12]

Apparently he was given promises last season by Arteta which didn't come to fruition.

Was then blocked going out on loan in Jan.

Although to be fair we got knocked out of cup games early on so difficult one.

[Highbury Hillbilly]

Wonder what's caused contract talks to collapse. It's not as if Chelsea are in a position where they're able to promise him an easier pathway to the senior team.

Yeah they can. They've promoted Tammy, Tomori, Mount, Reece James and Hudson Odoi in recent years. Tuchel is Dortmund DNA so he isn't asking for every role to be filled with a Galactico.

Meanwhile, Arteta in 2.5 years has used....Nketiah, Saka, ESR and Martinelli, all Wenger/Emery era seniors. Balogun is going on loan again, Reiss Nelson has no future here. Not surprised some are jumping ship.

[22-0]

Just lost another 60m+ future player.

[Reiss]

Probably another overhyped kid that won't do much in his career.

So meh.

[22-0]

Probably another overhyped kid that won't do much in his career.

So meh.

yeah like harry kane.

[Zenith]

Wonder what's caused contract talks to collapse. It's not as if Chelsea are in a position where they're able to promise him an easier pathway to the senior team.

Yeah they can. They've promoted Tammy, Tomori, Mount, Reece James and Hudson Odoi in recent years. Tuchel is Dortmund DNA so he isn't asking for every role to be filled with a Galactico.

Meanwhile, Arteta in 2.5 years has used....Nketiah, Saka, ESR and Martinelli, all Wenger/Emery era seniors. Balogun is going on loan again, Reiss Nelson has no future here. Not surprised some are jumping ship.

That's not a very honest take.

All those Chelsea players you mentioned also made their debuts during the pre-Tuchel era.

Tuchel wasn't a fan of Abraham and Tomori, hence he requested Granovskaia to sell both players, which reduces your list to just 2 players in James and Mount. 3 players at a stretch if we include CHO. This looks pale in comparison to the minutes Arteta has given to Smith Rowe, Martinelli, Saka, and Nketiah. (Admittedly, the latter to a lesser extent.)

Speaking of galacticos... Tuchel was directly involved in the Lukaku deal, but quickly ostracised him from the squad. Please remind me: when was the last time Arteta instantly destroyed the value of a player he, himself signed for £100m?

Also, Tuchel got sacked in his second season as Dortmund's manager, so why would he have Dortmund DNA?

I've never been a huge Arteta fan, but man, many of you aren't even attempting to be objective. When it's Tuchel it's genius; when it's Arteta it's poor management.

[Lolzil]

So gutted we've lost the new Messi to Chelsea thanks to Arteta.

[alexafc12]

Wonder what's caused contract talks to collapse. It's not as if Chelsea are in a position where they're able to promise him an easier pathway to the senior team.

Yeah they can. They've promoted Tammy, Tomori, Mount, Reece James and Hudson Odoi in recent years. Tuchel is Dortmund DNA so he isn't asking for every role to be filled with a Galactico.

Meanwhile, Arteta in 2.5 years has used....Nketiah, Saka, ESR and Martinelli, all Wenger/Emery era seniors. Balogun is going on loan again, Reiss Nelson has no future here. Not surprised some are jumping ship.

That's not a very honest take.

All those Chelsea players you mentioned also made their debuts during the pre-Tuchel era.

Tuchel wasn't a fan of Abraham and Tomori, hence he requested Granovskaia to sell both players, which reduces your list to just 2 players in James and Mount. 3 players at a stretch if we include CHO. This looks pale in comparison to the minutes Arteta has given to Smith Rowe, Martinelli, Saka, and Nketiah. (Admittedly, the latter to a lesser extent.)

Speaking of galacticos... Tuchel was directly involved in the Lukaku deal, but quickly ostracised him from the squad. Please remind me: when was the last time Arteta instantly destroyed the value of a player he, himself signed for £100m?

Also, Tuchel got sacked in his second season as Dortmund's manager, so why would he have Dortmund DNA?

I've never been a huge Arteta fan, but man, many of you aren't even attempting to be objective. When it's Tuchel it's genius; when it's Arteta it's poor management.

Agree with the Zen here.

I will say though I'd like to see Arteta bring through some Hale End lads on his own accord.

We have a good crop but they need game time. Last year was a tough on as we got eliminated from all comps early on and had no European football.

Strange to see hardly any youth players go on the pre-season tour though. Can't be great for the confidence.

This season he needs to give opportunities in the cup games to Hale End talents over unwanted crap that have no future at the club.

[alexafc12]

Apparently he was given promises last season by Arteta which didn't come to fruition.

Was then blocked going out on loan in Jan.

Although to be fair we got knocked out of cup games early on so difficult one.

Perhaps another reason behind the break down in contract talks was the fact we've brought in Marqinhos and are also looking at another first-team winger.

That's a lot of talent ahead of him and if last season's promises of first team chances didn't come to fruition there is probably the feeling on the player's side it's even less likely this. Especially since Arteta likes to play strong teams in cup competitions.

Hutchinson started his youth career at Chelsea too. If they get rid of Ziyech and Pulisic as reported, they'd only have Sterling, Hudson-Odoi and probably another winger ahead of him.

[Zenith]

Wonder what's caused contract talks to collapse. It's not as if Chelsea are in a position where they're able to promise him an easier pathway to the senior team.

Yeah they can. They've promoted Tammy, Tomori, Mount, Reece James and Hudson Odoi in recent years. Tuchel is Dortmund DNA so he isn't asking for every role to be filled with a Galactico.

Meanwhile, Arteta in 2.5 years has used....Nketiah, Saka, ESR and Martinelli, all Wenger/Emery era seniors. Balogun is going on loan again, Reiss Nelson has no future here. Not surprised some are jumping ship.

That's not a very honest take.

All those Chelsea players you mentioned also made their debuts during the pre-Tuchel era.

Tuchel wasn't a fan of Abraham and Tomori, hence he requested Granovskaia to sell both players, which reduces your list to just 2 players in James and Mount. 3 players at a stretch if we include CHO. This looks pale in comparison to the minutes Arteta has given to Smith Rowe, Martinelli, Saka, and Nketiah. (Admittedly, the latter to a lesser extent.)

Speaking of galacticos... Tuchel was directly involved in the Lukaku deal, but quickly ostracised him from the squad. Please remind me: when was the last time Arteta instantly destroyed the value of a player he, himself signed for £100m?

Also, Tuchel got sacked in his second season as Dortmund's manager, so why would he have Dortmund DNA?

I've never been a huge Arteta fan, but man, many of you aren't even attempting to be objective. When it's Tuchel it's genius; when it's Arteta it's poor management.

Agree with the Zen here.

I will say though I'd like to see Arteta bring through some Hale End lads on his own accord.

We have a good crop but they need game time. Last year was a tough on as we got eliminated from all comps early on and had no European football.

Strange to see hardly any youth players go on the pre-season tour though. Can't be great for the confidence.

This season he needs to give opportunities in the cup games to Hale End talents over unwanted crap that have no future at the club.

Agreed. Only Walters has made the trip, whilst the likes of Patino, Azeez, Flores, Taylor-Hart, Cirjan, Bandeira, and Norton-Cuffy were left out in favour of players who've indicated they want to leave.

Am sure a few of the above-mentioned players could be close to finalising loan moves, but surely not all of them? It also seems absurd to bring 5 goalkeepers.

[Dejan]

Wonder what's caused contract talks to collapse. It's not as if Chelsea are in a position where they're able to promise him an easier pathway to the senior team.

what the actual f***ing f**k

[Highbury Hillbilly]

Wonder what's caused contract talks to collapse. It's not as if Chelsea are in a position where they're able to promise him an easier pathway to the senior team.

Yeah they can. They've promoted Tammy, Tomori, Mount, Reece James and Hudson Odoi in recent years. Tuchel is Dortmund DNA so he isn't asking for every role to be filled with a Galactico.

Meanwhile, Arteta in 2.5 years has used....Nketiah, Saka, ESR and Martinelli, all Wenger/Emery era seniors. Balogun is going on loan again, Reiss Nelson has no future here. Not surprised some are jumping ship.

That's not a very honest take.

All those Chelsea players you mentioned also made their debuts during the pre-Tuchel era.

Tuchel wasn't a fan of Abraham and Tomori, hence he requested Granovskaia to sell both players, which reduces your list to just 2 players in James and Mount. 3 players at a stretch if we include CHO. This looks pale in comparison to the minutes Arteta has given to Smith Rowe, Martinelli, Saka, and Nketiah. (Admittedly, the latter to a lesser extent.)

Speaking of galacticos... Tuchel was directly involved in the Lukaku deal, but quickly ostracised him from the squad. Please remind me: when was the last time Arteta instantly destroyed the value of a player he, himself signed for £100m?

Also, Tuchel got sacked in his second season as Dortmund's manager, so why would he have Dortmund DNA?

I've never been a huge Arteta fan, but man, many of you aren't even attempting to be objective. When it's Tuchel it's genius; when it's Arteta it's poor management.

Fair enough, Lampard deserves credit for trusting academy players during their transfer ban. I've spoken positively about his Chelsea managerial stint before.

However, Tuchel was the one to get them CL medals. AFAIK he wasn't involved in the Lukaku transfer. Why would he be? Marina makes those decisions and the coach has to figure out a way to live with them. It's only now under new ownership that Tuchel can explicitly say things like no, I don't want Ronaldo here.

Tuchel finished 3 full seasons at Dortmund, is that not enough? He was sacked after the final game of the season, and mostly because he and Mislintat didn't get along. And he had criticized club brass for forcing them to play <24 hours after their bus was bombed.

The comparison still stands. Arteta has had numerous chances to promote youth and has opted to buy new players every time.

[elkanofan]

https://www.football.london/chelsea-fc/ ... r-24507624.

Really annoyed about this.

Why we brought Marqunihos when we should of given this guy more of a chance.