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Re: Liverpool

Postby alexafc12 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:02 pm

You can say the same about Partey. Why would he leave Atletico to join Arsenal ... oh yeah, because we'd be paying him a whopping £200k a week.

Jota isn't a player we need now, I agree. But it's another example of how much we overpaid for Pepe £70m. In the past 2 seasons the following have all moved club for half the price.

Jota - £35m
Ziyech - £32m
Sarr - £30m
Brandt - £22m
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Re: Liverpool

Postby Callum » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:09 pm

If you're honestly upset that we didn't sign a player from the best team in Europe who went to the best team in England, after a season that we finished 8th, I don't know what to tell you. Thiago was never a realistic signing.
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Re: Liverpool

Postby elkanofan » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:13 pm

Thiago is a brilliant player.

Very injury prone hence why Bayern are selling.
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Re: Liverpool

Postby alexafc12 » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:17 pm

Callum wrote:If you're honestly upset that we didn't sign a player from the best team in Europe who went to the best team in England, after a season that we finished 8th, I don't know what to tell you. Thiago was never a realistic signing.


Thiago is a single example. You've missed the wider remark - we overpay when there are much more economical options out there. Seemingly we don't like the obvious choice.
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Re: Liverpool

Postby Angelito » Fri Sep 18, 2020 6:44 pm

Losmeister wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:Liverpool looking to cement themselves as top dogs of England. Thiago & Jota > Partey & Willian (probably cheaper wages considered too)

In:

Thiago - Done (£20m)
Jota - £35m agreed

Out:

Lovren - Sold £11m
Ki-Jana Hoever - £10m sale agreed
Ovie Ejaria - Sold £4m

Whoever their transfer team is we need to sign them ASAP


they have an enormous advantage of being EPL/UCL WINNERS!!!

we're trying to claw back to UCL legit challengers... and it been more than a decade since we have been considered that....


We don't need to challenge for the title to achieve those feats. This is hindsight 20/20, we were doing fine until 2016 when we had accepted that top-4 was the goal. Top-4 was indeed a trophy for us at the time.

The desperation to get back into the top-4 proves why Wenger kept on harping about it. I didn't understand it as much as I now do. What we are doing is trying to get back to the model of 2007-2016 where we didn't have to break the bank to achieve optimal success.


alexafc12 wrote:You can say the same about Partey. Why would he leave Atletico to join Arsenal ... oh yeah, because we'd be paying him a whopping £200k a week.

Jota isn't a player we need now, I agree. But it's another example of how much we overpaid for Pepe £70m. In the past 2 seasons the following have all moved club for half the price.

Jota - £35m
Ziyech - £32m
Sarr - £30m
Brandt - £22m


We've spent nearly £300m since Wenger left.

All for what? To get back in the UCL—something Wenger was doing without even spending a penny (net). During the latter years, from 2014 more specifically, we simply decided to be a club that would spend for the sake of spending in order to challenge for the title. Instead, we ended up dropping out of the UCL during the Wenger/Gazidis power tussle.

We simply haven't had a management team that has been strategic and smart enough. I hope that changes under the new administration—spearheaded by Edu and Arteta.

On Pepe, that £72m is one of the reasons why Raul was sacked. While Wenger's penny-pinching cost us Alonso, Villa, and Higuain, this spending spree under Gazidis and Raul has now left us in a financially volatile position.

In disaster preparedness and prevention modules, you don't realize the scale of disaster that has been prevented by adopting precautionary measures. We now know why Wenger was always against reckless spending. £300m later.
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Re: Liverpool F.C.

Postby Ach » Fri Sep 18, 2020 7:25 pm

Thiago lol

Jota was great couple of seasons ago as his goals won me the league

Done f all since
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Re: Liverpool F.C.

Postby Angelito » Fri Sep 18, 2020 8:49 pm

Cesc Fabregas
Xabi Alonso
David Silva
Santiago Cazorla
Dani Ceballos
Thiago Alcantara?

Will the legacy continue?
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Re: Liverpool F.C.

Postby Callum » Fri Sep 18, 2020 11:02 pm

Rayyo wrote:liverpool are apparently selling some defender called hoever to wolves for 10m. never heard of the guy.

that's what you call good management. getting fees like that for nobodies whilst we can't get clubs to give us a bag of crisps for some of our players.

We did similar with selling Bielik to Derby. There's also a bit of potential f*ckry going on there with Wolves selling Jota to Liverpool and signing Hoever, and Mendes' involvement. Still, the point remains—nobody is better at selling their youngsters/ deadwood than Liverpool at this time.
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Re: Liverpool F.C.

Postby Angelito » Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:45 pm

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Re: Liverpool F.C.

Postby Arsenal Tone » Thu Aug 26, 2021 8:47 pm

Angelito wrote:


vs how Arsenal managers should visit Anfield

https://twitter.com/ThrowbackAFC/status ... 10434?s=19
Raya/Ramsdale
White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
???/Jorginho
Odegaard/Smith Rowe----Rice/???
Saka/Jesus-------------------Martinelli/Trossard
???/Havertz
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Re: Liverpool F.C.

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:08 pm

Ox has that same shit-eating grin as Giroud does these days. The "Thanks for selling me, boss, it could not have worked out better" look.
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Re: Liverpool F.C.

Postby Angelito » Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:09 pm

Tony Adams wrote:
Angelito wrote:


vs how Arsenal managers should visit Anfield

https://twitter.com/ThrowbackAFC/status ... 10434?s=19


vs how Arsenal managers shouldn't ever visit anywhere:

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Checkmate. :P
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Re: Liverpool F.C.

Postby Arsenal Tone » Thu Aug 26, 2021 9:59 pm

Angelito wrote:
Tony Adams wrote:
Angelito wrote:


vs how Arsenal managers should visit Anfield

https://twitter.com/ThrowbackAFC/status ... 10434?s=19


vs how Arsenal managers shouldn't ever visit anywhere:

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Checkmate. :P
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You have no idea how much it hurt seeing him go there!
Raya/Ramsdale
White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
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Saka/Jesus-------------------Martinelli/Trossard
???/Havertz
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Re: Liverpool F.C.

Postby Arsenal Tone » Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:17 am

Arsenal Tone wrote:
Angelito wrote:


vs how Arsenal managers should visit Anfield

https://twitter.com/ThrowbackAFC/status ... 10434?s=19
Think that might be my favourite Arsenal photo of all time.
Raya/Ramsdale
White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
???/Jorginho
Odegaard/Smith Rowe----Rice/???
Saka/Jesus-------------------Martinelli/Trossard
???/Havertz
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Re: Liverpool F.C.

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:36 am

Reiss wrote:Klopp confirming he's looking to leave Liverpool in 2024.

That'll be the end of their cycle.

Klopp is doing genius things with one hand tied and it'll be hard to replicate, so no doubt there'll be some sort of drop off.

They also have an ageing squad and will have to rebuild the team, but I don't think FSG are the type of owners to invest in sweeping changes.

Pep will also probably be off in the next 2 years and naturally there'll be a drop off there.

Success comes in cycles and if Man Utd get their next appointment right it - and we carry on building our foundations - it may well see us battling it out at the top with them.


They could sign Tuchel, whose CHE contract ends at the same time.
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