by Nuggets » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:41 pm
by Sims » Sat Feb 17, 2018 1:54 pm
by Arsenal~Fanatic » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:01 pm
by CrimsonGunner11 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:51 pm
generalanal wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:So far Wengers biggest mistake to sell a Top striker like Giroud
I do not and would not blame Wenger for selling Giroud. I do blame him for mismanaging Lacazette. Lyon, while Lacazette was there, had a better setup for Lacazette to thrive in than we currently do. How is this still possible with all the resources Arsenal has?
I’ll tell you the answer and that’s a plethora of bad decisions being made that stems from the suits upstairs
Lacazette isn't good enough. Never mind who we buy. The pl is a much harder league than the French league. I thought lacazette would be at least quicker than giroud but it's not the case. Anyway you are right about the Board, wrong decisions
by DiamondGooner » Sat Feb 17, 2018 2:57 pm
by GoonerAlexandre » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:00 pm
DiamondGooner wrote:There's one simple brutal fact everyone's missing.
Arsenal have, do and always have done, play better with a pacey, mobile forward.
The way we pass the ball around, its easier to thread through a striker like Aubamaeyang, we are not the sort of team who plays well with a target man, we practically invented the False no9.
Giroud would and still would never have fitted in the way we'd need him to, in fact Lacazettes issue has been because he plays like a target man which was not what I wanted.
If Chelsea can make it work then more power to them, we got PEA, they got Giroud, I'm ecstatic with how the situation has ended.
by Sims » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:46 pm
by Nuggets » Sat Feb 17, 2018 3:51 pm
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:The amount of unwarranted vitriol he got from our fans was so misplaced. Giroud has settled in so quickly and scoring and assisting. It was huge mistake to sell him and before anyone tells me we wouldn't have got Auba otherwise i will say had we got our business done already we would have Giroud leading the line in Europa league and not Welbeck.
by Losmeister » Sat Feb 17, 2018 5:57 pm
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:So far Wengers biggest mistake to sell a Top striker like Giroud
I do not and would not blame Wenger for selling Giroud. I do blame him for mismanaging Lacazette. Lyon, while Lacazette was there, had a better setup for Lacazette to thrive in than we currently do. How is this still possible with all the resources Arsenal has?
I’ll tell you the answer and that’s a plethora of bad decisions being made that stems from the suits upstairs
Lacazette isn't good enough. Never mind who we buy. The pl is a much harder league than the French league. I thought lacazette would be at least quicker than giroud but it's not the case. Anyway you are right about the Board, wrong decisions
Maybe Lacazette isn’t good enough for us but you don’t get Lacazettes’ records without knowing what you’re doing. You put Lacazette in Liverpool’s side, for example, I would bet he would be putting up the same numbers he had at Lyon. When I see a player not performing up to his standards, I try to understand why that is and I believe one of the reasons is because Lacazette plays better with football-smart people. That is people who consistently understands what needs to be done to win games. Lacazette has been playing with a bunch of people on the opposite end of the spectrum for some time now (bar maybe one or two) and Wenger is the prime suspect. Wenger has turned into a serial killer of players’ abilities with some of the decisions he’s been making recently.
by CrimsonGunner11 » Sat Feb 17, 2018 7:07 pm
Losmeister wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:So far Wengers biggest mistake to sell a Top striker like Giroud
I do not and would not blame Wenger for selling Giroud. I do blame him for mismanaging Lacazette. Lyon, while Lacazette was there, had a better setup for Lacazette to thrive in than we currently do. How is this still possible with all the resources Arsenal has?
I’ll tell you the answer and that’s a plethora of bad decisions being made that stems from the suits upstairs
Lacazette isn't good enough. Never mind who we buy. The pl is a much harder league than the French league. I thought lacazette would be at least quicker than giroud but it's not the case. Anyway you are right about the Board, wrong decisions
Maybe Lacazette isn’t good enough for us but you don’t get Lacazettes’ records without knowing what you’re doing. You put Lacazette in Liverpool’s side, for example, I would bet he would be putting up the same numbers he had at Lyon. When I see a player not performing up to his standards, I try to understand why that is and I believe one of the reasons is because Lacazette plays better with football-smart people. That is people who consistently understands what needs to be done to win games. Lacazette has been playing with a bunch of people on the opposite end of the spectrum for some time now (bar maybe one or two) and Wenger is the prime suspect. Wenger has turned into a serial killer of players’ abilities with some of the decisions he’s been making recently.
the fact that we somehow manage to NEVER WIN PENALTIEs hurts Laca, cos he's good at that.
by generalanal » Sat Feb 17, 2018 9:21 pm
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:So far Wengers biggest mistake to sell a Top striker like Giroud
I do not and would not blame Wenger for selling Giroud. I do blame him for mismanaging Lacazette. Lyon, while Lacazette was there, had a better setup for Lacazette to thrive in than we currently do. How is this still possible with all the resources Arsenal has?
I’ll tell you the answer and that’s a plethora of bad decisions being made that stems from the suits upstairs
Lacazette isn't good enough. Never mind who we buy. The pl is a much harder league than the French league. I thought lacazette would be at least quicker than giroud but it's not the case. Anyway you are right about the Board, wrong decisions
Maybe Lacazette isn’t good enough for us but you don’t get Lacazettes’ records without knowing what you’re doing. You put Lacazette in Liverpool’s side, for example, I would bet he would be putting up the same numbers he had at Lyon. When I see a player not performing up to his standards, I try to understand why that is and I believe one of the reasons is because Lacazette plays better with football-smart people. That is people who consistently understands what needs to be done to win games. Lacazette has been playing with a bunch of people on the opposite end of the spectrum for some time now (bar maybe one or two) and Wenger is the prime suspect. Wenger has turned into a serial killer of players’ abilities with some of the decisions he’s been making recently.
by CrimsonGunner11 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:17 am
generalanal wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:So far Wengers biggest mistake to sell a Top striker like Giroud
I do not and would not blame Wenger for selling Giroud. I do blame him for mismanaging Lacazette. Lyon, while Lacazette was there, had a better setup for Lacazette to thrive in than we currently do. How is this still possible with all the resources Arsenal has?
I’ll tell you the answer and that’s a plethora of bad decisions being made that stems from the suits upstairs
Lacazette isn't good enough. Never mind who we buy. The pl is a much harder league than the French league. I thought lacazette would be at least quicker than giroud but it's not the case. Anyway you are right about the Board, wrong decisions
Maybe Lacazette isn’t good enough for us but you don’t get Lacazettes’ records without knowing what you’re doing. You put Lacazette in Liverpool’s side, for example, I would bet he would be putting up the same numbers he had at Lyon. When I see a player not performing up to his standards, I try to understand why that is and I believe one of the reasons is because Lacazette plays better with football-smart people. That is people who consistently understands what needs to be done to win games. Lacazette has been playing with a bunch of people on the opposite end of the spectrum for some time now (bar maybe one or two) and Wenger is the prime suspect. Wenger has turned into a serial killer of players’ abilities with some of the decisions he’s been making recently.
I think he would be too slow for the Liverpool attack. When we signed lacazette i knew he wouldn't be the answer, Giroud is a much better striker in almost every area. Wenger is past it Yes but in this case with lacazette i don't blame him. Lacazette didn' t deserve to play longer than 70minutes, he was that bad in most games. Yes he had players like özil and Sanchez next to him and didn't get many goal scoring opportunities. Imo the best is to sell in the comming summer and give nketiah more opportunities
by generalanal » Sun Feb 18, 2018 1:27 pm
CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:So far Wengers biggest mistake to sell a Top striker like Giroud
I do not and would not blame Wenger for selling Giroud. I do blame him for mismanaging Lacazette. Lyon, while Lacazette was there, had a better setup for Lacazette to thrive in than we currently do. How is this still possible with all the resources Arsenal has?
I’ll tell you the answer and that’s a plethora of bad decisions being made that stems from the suits upstairs
Lacazette isn't good enough. Never mind who we buy. The pl is a much harder league than the French league. I thought lacazette would be at least quicker than giroud but it's not the case. Anyway you are right about the Board, wrong decisions
Maybe Lacazette isn’t good enough for us but you don’t get Lacazettes’ records without knowing what you’re doing. You put Lacazette in Liverpool’s side, for example, I would bet he would be putting up the same numbers he had at Lyon. When I see a player not performing up to his standards, I try to understand why that is and I believe one of the reasons is because Lacazette plays better with football-smart people. That is people who consistently understands what needs to be done to win games. Lacazette has been playing with a bunch of people on the opposite end of the spectrum for some time now (bar maybe one or two) and Wenger is the prime suspect. Wenger has turned into a serial killer of players’ abilities with some of the decisions he’s been making recently.
I think he would be too slow for the Liverpool attack. When we signed lacazette i knew he wouldn't be the answer, Giroud is a much better striker in almost every area. Wenger is past it Yes but in this case with lacazette i don't blame him. Lacazette didn' t deserve to play longer than 70minutes, he was that bad in most games. Yes he had players like özil and Sanchez next to him and didn't get many goal scoring opportunities. Imo the best is to sell in the comming summer and give nketiah more opportunities
There’s nothing in that video Lacazette cannot do given the same conditions, imo.
Lacazette’s been horribly mismanaged from what I’ve seen so far; just like Ozil’s been mismanaged playing with players like Giroud for so many years; just like Xhaka’s been mismanaged being asked to play as a DM; just like the defenders have been mismanaged playing with no reliable DMs for years. Still haven’t given up on Lacazette completely, especially since this is his first season, but I will be honest and say that I won’t be upset if he’s sold in the summer because he’s not really doing much himself to improve his luck.
Also disagree with you about Giroud being the better striker in almost every area comment:
Giroud:
https://www.fifaindex.com/player/178509/olivier-giroud/
Lacazette:
https://www.fifaindex.com/player/193301 ... lacazette/
I know its just a game but its pretty much spot on imo
by CrimsonGunner11 » Sun Feb 18, 2018 3:31 pm
generalanal wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:CrimsonGunner11 wrote:generalanal wrote:So far Wengers biggest mistake to sell a Top striker like Giroud
I do not and would not blame Wenger for selling Giroud. I do blame him for mismanaging Lacazette. Lyon, while Lacazette was there, had a better setup for Lacazette to thrive in than we currently do. How is this still possible with all the resources Arsenal has?
I’ll tell you the answer and that’s a plethora of bad decisions being made that stems from the suits upstairs
Lacazette isn't good enough. Never mind who we buy. The pl is a much harder league than the French league. I thought lacazette would be at least quicker than giroud but it's not the case. Anyway you are right about the Board, wrong decisions
Maybe Lacazette isn’t good enough for us but you don’t get Lacazettes’ records without knowing what you’re doing. You put Lacazette in Liverpool’s side, for example, I would bet he would be putting up the same numbers he had at Lyon. When I see a player not performing up to his standards, I try to understand why that is and I believe one of the reasons is because Lacazette plays better with football-smart people. That is people who consistently understands what needs to be done to win games. Lacazette has been playing with a bunch of people on the opposite end of the spectrum for some time now (bar maybe one or two) and Wenger is the prime suspect. Wenger has turned into a serial killer of players’ abilities with some of the decisions he’s been making recently.
I think he would be too slow for the Liverpool attack. When we signed lacazette i knew he wouldn't be the answer, Giroud is a much better striker in almost every area. Wenger is past it Yes but in this case with lacazette i don't blame him. Lacazette didn' t deserve to play longer than 70minutes, he was that bad in most games. Yes he had players like özil and Sanchez next to him and didn't get many goal scoring opportunities. Imo the best is to sell in the comming summer and give nketiah more opportunities
There’s nothing in that video Lacazette cannot do given the same conditions, imo.
Lacazette’s been horribly mismanaged from what I’ve seen so far; just like Ozil’s been mismanaged playing with players like Giroud for so many years; just like Xhaka’s been mismanaged being asked to play as a DM; just like the defenders have been mismanaged playing with no reliable DMs for years. Still haven’t given up on Lacazette completely, especially since this is his first season, but I will be honest and say that I won’t be upset if he’s sold in the summer because he’s not really doing much himself to improve his luck.
Also disagree with you about Giroud being the better striker in almost every area comment:
Giroud:
https://www.fifaindex.com/player/178509/olivier-giroud/
Lacazette:
https://www.fifaindex.com/player/193301 ... lacazette/
I know its just a game but its pretty much spot on imo
True, they have about the same speed but firminos allround game is better and he is a smarter player. Imo players like xhaka for example aren't good enough and never will be in England, never mind what you do, he won't get suddenly more pace. Players like Giroud got mismanaged, we never played to his strength and he still was great imo. So i don't buy this excuse for every player. Ok your opinion, i watched both with my own eyes and it's clear for me.
by Ach » Tue Feb 20, 2018 11:57 am
Chelsea striker Olivier Giroud, 31, says "for a year and a half, it went from bad to worse" at former club Arsenal, which is why he had to leave in January. (Express)