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Which is the more heated rivalry?

Wenger vs. Alex Ferguson
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Wenger vs. Mourinho
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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Sun Aug 20, 2017 9:45 am

Don't forget Tony_Adams is the same bloke who compares Xhaka to Vieira.

They couldn't be more different ffs.
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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Aug 20, 2017 10:04 am

Pogba and paddy are different, pogba is more attacking but in terms of being such a dominant player he could replicate paddy, lukaku like dorgba will never be on henrys level but he can score a load of goals and be a talisman like henry, the way his started it looks like he might.

Lampard and drogba would prob be a better comparison though.
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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:11 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:Don't forget Tony_Adams is the same bloke who compares Xhaka to Vieira.

They couldn't be more different ffs.


Pogba works best in a CM partnetship with a DM (eg Matic). IMO Xhaka would work best if he had a DM next to him.

Vieira worked best with a DM (Gilberto/Petit) next to him.

The similarity between Vieira, Pogba and Xhaka is that all three are best as the more forward thinking player in a two man central midfield.

Wenger seems intent on proving you don't need a DM and pretending that Xhaka is one. He isn't, neither is Cazorla. This 'deep lying playmaker' stuff doesn't win titles. Players like Kante win titles!!!

You watch Pogba thrive next to Matic, if you give Xhaka a Matic type next to him he'd be much better. He needs 3 CBs behind him if he's playing next to Ramsey.

Back on the invincibles comparison, which of the XI positions would best suit Pogba? Betgkamp's #10? Possibly. Gilberto's DM? NO! The more attacking CM position Vieira had next to Gilberto. It is perfectly fine to compare them. I'm not saying Pogba is as good yet, he still has to work on the defensive aspects of his game imo, but I think he could be seen as a vieira type in thr future.

Just like Vieira next to Gilberto and Yaya next to Fernando/Fernandinho I think Pogba will thrive next to Matic and become a top CM!
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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby Angelito » Sun Aug 20, 2017 1:18 pm

Sims wrote:Also helps that Lukaku is probably better than Drogba already. Dids only managed over 13 goals a season like 3 times despite how good he was

Comparisons to older players are mostly asinine, the games different now, people like Pogba, Lukaku etc are quite unique in terms of play style


Lukaku better than Drogba? No.

Drogba is the best big-game player in Prem history. His impact on games was unparalleled much like Bergkamp for us—even if he didn't score goals or wasn't as prolific as others. It's like saying Andy Cole was better DB10.

Drogba wouldn't have suited Real Madrid or Barca because he was a different type of attacker. For Chelsea, there wasn't a player more pivotal than him because he epitomized Chelsea's robust philosophy.
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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby Santi » Sun Aug 20, 2017 4:13 pm

doesn't matter


lukaku and pogba will drag united to the PL title
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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby Angelito » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:12 pm

Mesüt wrote:doesn't matter


lukaku and pogba will drag united to the PL title


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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sun Aug 20, 2017 5:23 pm

Mesüt wrote:doesn't matter


lukaku and pogba will drag united to the PL title


This - in the same way paddy and terry did for us, which was my point!
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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:31 pm

Tony_Adams wrote:
Mesüt wrote:doesn't matter


lukaku and pogba will drag united to the PL title


This - in the same way paddy and terry did for us, which was my point!


Might as well say Drinkwater and Vardy are like Vieira and Henry then, they dragged Leicester to a title.
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The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby Arsenal Tone » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:45 pm

Va-Va-Voom wrote:
Tony_Adams wrote:
Mesüt wrote:doesn't matter


lukaku and pogba will drag united to the PL title


This - in the same way paddy and terry did for us, which was my point!


Might as well say Drinkwater and Vardy are like Vieira and Henry then, they dragged Leicester to a title.


Once. You watch Pogba, Lukaku and Utd dominate for the next 5-10 years!
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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby BS221B » Sun Aug 20, 2017 8:50 pm

Tony_Adams wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:
Tony_Adams wrote:
Mesüt wrote:doesn't matter


lukaku and pogba will drag united to the PL title


This - in the same way paddy and terry did for us, which was my point!


Might as well say Drinkwater and Vardy are like Vieira and Henry then, they dragged Leicester to a title.


Once. You watch Pogba, Lukaku and Utd dominate for the next 5-10 years!

Are they going to dominate European football as well?
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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby MesutOzil11 » Mon Aug 21, 2017 1:37 am

Tony_Adams wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:
Tony_Adams wrote:
Mesüt wrote:doesn't matter


lukaku and pogba will drag united to the PL title


This - in the same way paddy and terry did for us, which was my point!


Might as well say Drinkwater and Vardy are like Vieira and Henry then, they dragged Leicester to a title.


Once. You watch Pogba, Lukaku and Utd dominate for the next 5-10 years!


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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby Schlandi » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:26 pm

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- Their goalkeerper had the game of his life
- We should have had 10+ penalties .. shit ref
- If long term injured player xyz would have been available we would have won easily
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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby Nuggets » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:28 pm

Maureen is off to a good start, those who counted him out could regret it.
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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby MesutOzil11 » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:30 pm

Nuggets wrote:Maureen is off to a good start, those who counted him out could regret it.


The only ones who will be regretting is when this hype train comes to a very, very hard stop.

Only a matter of time now.

Pep is going to be laughing at the likes of Schland ect very soon.
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Re: The Let's All Vent About ManU and Mourinho Thread

Postby Nuggets » Sat Aug 26, 2017 6:32 pm

MesutOzil11 wrote:
Nuggets wrote:Maureen is off to a good start, those who counted him out could regret it.


The only ones who will be regretting is when this hype train comes to a very, very hard stop.

Only a matter of time now.

Pep is going to be laughing at the likes of Schland ect very soon.


The only shit manager you can count on with not winning the prem is that Turd Wonga.
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