2022-23 FA Cup

[VCC]

Regardless of everything city are a very good team like Barca years ago and our best side that any numpty would have won CL with but AW wanted to sell

[UFGN]

Regardless of everything city are a very good team like Barca years ago and our best side that any numpty would have won CL with but AW wanted to sell

It's a crime that the invincibles didn't win more together.

The cult of personality around that d***head cost the club probably more than it ever gained us.

[Losmeister]

The ball hit Grealishe's hand, which was in a natural position, from point-blank range. Let's be honest here: the current handball rule has nothing to do with consistency. Not to mention the threshold appears to change repeatedly throughout the season. More penalties to augment spectacle, whilst the sporting integrity of the game continues to ebb away.

EPL still wants MAnure to be relevant

[Losmeister]

any numptys always win the CL

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[VCC]

any numptys always win the CL

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You don't think he sold us short that's fine.
I Do

[UFGN]

any numptys always win the CL

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Ultimately it's just a cup competition

High quality opponents yes, but it's less of an achievement than winning the league. That's not to say I don't want one for Arsenal, of course I do. But the narrative that it's an impossibility hard trophy to win is false.

[Salibatelli]

any numptys always win the CL

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Ultimately it's just a cup competition

High quality opponents yes, but it's less of an achievement than winning the league. That's not to say I don't want one for Arsenal, of course I do. But the narrative that it's an impossibility hard trophy to win is false.

I definitely disagree, the best Man U sides struggled to win it, Ferguson tried everything until 1999 and then they only won it when me more time.

City have failed and on the whole only the top sides win it.

We won the league a few times under Wenger but he could never crack the CL despite 20 years of trying.

You can afford mistakes in the PL because there’s so many games, but in the CL in the knockout stages in particular it tends to be terminal.

Man City have won 7 titles in 12 years and 5 in the last
6 years and yet have yet to win the CL, if it was easier they would have won it by now, after all they win the PL every year (this year at a canter as well) and have no problem with that.

[Salibatelli]

I don’t think it was a penalty, what I will say is that his arm was up, was that a natural position I’m not sure, arms don’t usually go up like that.

The tile definitely needs changing, I think handball should be for intentional actions as opposed to hitting the hand, so if a player clearly moves it to try and block the ball or has his hands high in anticipation then it would be a penalty.

Anything else shouldn’t be IMO.

[jayramfootball]

any numptys always win the CL

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Ultimately it's just a cup competition

High quality opponents yes, but it's less of an achievement than winning the league. That's not to say I don't want one for Arsenal, of course I do. But the narrative that it's an impossibility hard trophy to win is false.

I definitely disagree, the best Man U sides struggled to win it, Ferguson tried everything until 1999 and then they only won it when me more time.

City have failed and on the whole only the top sides win it.

We won the league a few times under Wenger but he could never crack the CL despite 20 years of trying.

You can afford mistakes in the PL because there’s so many games, but in the CL in the knockout stages in particular it tends to be terminal.

Man City have won 7 titles in 12 years and 5 in the last
6 years and yet have yet to win the CL, if it was easier they would have won it by now, after all they win the PL every year (this year at a canter as well) and have no problem with that.

Your argument that teams have won the league but not the CL as often is actually evidence of the luck involved in winning the CL. The best teams often don't win it. That's the nature of cups.

I think for European competitions in general it's also skewed toward certain leagues because the leagues that the likes of Real Madrid play in are so easy. The likes of Real don't really need to play at even 6/10 of their level to make the CL every year. They focus mainly on the CL and prepare accordingly. I'd go as far as to say that winning the league for the likes of Real Madrid is akin to winning the league cup here in terms of the level of importance they place on it.

[Salibatelli]

Your argument that teams have won the league but not the CL as often is actually evidence of the luck involved in winning the CL. The best teams often don't win it. That's the nature of cups.

I think for European competitions in general it's also skewed toward certain leagues because the leagues that the likes of Real Madrid play in are so easy. The likes of Real don't really need to play at even 6/10 of their level to make the CL every year. They focus mainly on the CL and prepare accordingly. I'd go as far as to say that winning the league for the likes of Real Madrid is akin to winning the league cup here in terms of the level of importance they place on it.

The CL is not just a cup though, first it has a group stage which favours stronger sides and then a two legged knockout which again generally favours the stronger sides if they are focussed on the games, the difference is then pressure which is higher in knockout football especially with the rewards involved.

The league doesn’t have a lot of pressure except at the end of the season, this favours sides who have been there done that and have players who can handle the pressure and have done it before.

The CL is high pressure, it’s the trophy all the top sides wants to get their hands on above anything else therefore it creates huge tension.

Real Madrid have won it simply because they have top top players who are use to handling pressure.

The top clubs particuarly want the CL because there’s huge prestige and financially it’s very lucrative and has huge reach globally in terms of recruiting a bigger fanbase.

Champions of your country vs champions of Europe, clearly being champions of Europe is better.

[UFGN]

any numptys always win the CL

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Ultimately it's just a cup competition

High quality opponents yes, but it's less of an achievement than winning the league. That's not to say I don't want one for Arsenal, of course I do. But the narrative that it's an impossibility hard trophy to win is false.

I definitely disagree, the best Man U sides struggled to win it, Ferguson tried everything until 1999 and then they only won it when me more time.

City have failed and on the whole only the top sides win it.

We won the league a few times under Wenger but he could never crack the CL despite 20 years of trying.

You can afford mistakes in the PL because there’s so many games, but in the CL in the knockout stages in particular it tends to be terminal.

Man City have won 7 titles in 12 years and 5 in the last
6 years and yet have yet to win the CL, if it was easier they would have won it by now, after all they win the PL every year (this year at a canter as well) and have no problem with that.

Your logic doesn't work because plenty of teams who've won the CL wouldn't win the Premier League if they were parachuted into it. People always neglect to consider that.

The Prem is much harder to win.

[Salibatelli]

Your logic doesn't work because plenty of teams who've won the CL wouldn't win the Premier League if they were parachuted into it. People always neglect to consider that.

The Prem is much harder to win.

You can spin it the other way and say the same about the winners of the PL and the CL.

Look at how hard it has been for our top teams to win the CL, as well, Man City haven’t our best sides didn’t, Man U who dominated the league found it very hard, PSG with all their riches haven’t.

I think if the PL was harder Man City would have won the CL at least a couple times by now.

[UFGN]

any numptys always win the CL

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Ultimately it's just a cup competition

High quality opponents yes, but it's less of an achievement than winning the league. That's not to say I don't want one for Arsenal, of course I do. But the narrative that it's an impossibility hard trophy to win is false.

I definitely disagree, the best Man U sides struggled to win it, Ferguson tried everything until 1999 and then they only won it when me more time.

City have failed and on the whole only the top sides win it.

We won the league a few times under Wenger but he could never crack the CL despite 20 years of trying.

You can afford mistakes in the PL because there’s so many games, but in the CL in the knockout stages in particular it tends to be terminal.

Man City have won 7 titles in 12 years and 5 in the last
6 years and yet have yet to win the CL, if it was easier they would have won it by now, after all they win the PL every year (this year at a canter as well) and have no problem with that.

Your logic doesn't work because plenty of teams who've won the CL wouldn't win the Premier League if they were parachuted into it. People always neglect to consider that.

The Prem is much harder to win.

Who, all the teams that won the CL in recent memory could win the PL.

Look at how hard it has been for our top teams to win the CL, as well, Man City haven’t our best sides didn’t, Man U who dominated the league found it very hard, PSG with all their riches havent.

The CL is very very hard to win, we’ve only even made one final..

I don’t understand how the PL is harder to win when the CL has better teams in it, I think the main difference is the pressure is much greater in the CL and even the better teams falter.

Real Madrid the most successful CL / European Cup team ever.

Wouldn't win the PL. Absolutely not. They wouldn't do badly but they wouldn't win it.

Their league life consists of playing on average much weaker teams than top PL teams have to face.

Outside the top six of La Liga, most of those teams would struggle to even survive in the PL.

[Salibatelli]

Real Madrid the most successful CL / European Cup team ever.

Wouldn't win the PL. Absolutely not. They wouldn't do badly but they wouldn't win it.

Their league life consists of playing on average much weaker teams than top PL teams have to face.

Outside the top six of La Liga, most of those teams would struggle to even survive in the PL.

Maybe not this year but I think in previous years perhaps , the kind of threats they had will give any team problems.

If don’t think they would, Sevilla outclassed Man U in the EL and they aren’t even top 6, I think people overate the PL, PL teams have only won the CL twice in 10 years and 5 times in 20 years, this hardly paints the PL in a great light.

The fact is that the PL top teams have been beaten by the European teams, if you can’t beat the best European teams you can’t call yourself the best.