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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby owainAFC » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:53 am

if he scores and gets an assist from mouthing off in the press before each game then so be it ;)
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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby Good_Eye_Sniper » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:54 am

Inchpractice wrote:
Good_Eye_Sniper wrote:It just seems to me that with these players, when they have a bad game, they're publicly crucified, but they don't get any recognition when they have a good game.

I think Bendtner was quality tonight, and I think he should get the praise for it, and to be honest, seeing that "newspaper report" really annoyed me because I know it's just the media identifying our current "scapegoat" and playing on it

Agree with that 100%.
Bendy was quality tonight, scored one, set up the fourth goal, worked hard etc. etc.
Missed a sitter but Ade does it all the time so what the hell?

Yes the media totally wank out on identifying our scapegoat. They had a field day when Eboue was booed and they didn't stop talking about it for weeks.
What really f***ing irritated me though was the fact that those twunt Setanta commentators just took the Mirror story as complete gospel.
Soon as Bendtner missed that sitter one of them said "Well this is the man who came out in the papers today and said he should be starting every game - not with performances like that he won't!"
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They didn't say "This is the player who 'allegedly' said or this is the player who 'was reported to have said' they just took it as gospel.
Monkey see monkey do - it's in black and white and therefore it's true.
These people are FORTY years old for f**k's sake and they don't know better!
Seriously!! :BangHead:

And if that wasn't bad enough the f***ing c**ts in the studio actually watched Bendtner's interview in which he clearly stated that it was all tabloid shite and then said it again!!!
They actually watched him rubbish it and then said "bearing in mind his quotes in the paper he should play better blah blah"

HE'S JUST f***ing TOLD YOU IT WAS RUBBISH!! WHERE WERE YOU?? IN MAKE UP??
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Absolutely spot on mate, we should have more faith in our players'. Sure some of them have a bad game, and some of them aren't ready yet, some of them might never be, but when they do well, should we really be reverting back to tabloid trash to snap them back into the scapegoat chair?
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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby Good_Eye_Sniper » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:54 am

owainAFC wrote:if he scores and gets an assist from mouthing off in the press before each game then so be it ;)

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

:BangHead: :BangHead: :BangHead: :BangHead:

He hasn't "mouthed off" in the press, this is the point we're making!!

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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby UFGN » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:55 am

Good_Eye_Sniper wrote:
Up For Grabs Now wrote:
Good_Eye_Sniper wrote:
owainAFC wrote:watch the free video from arsenal tv with him that was up on the site a while back, he oozed arrogance in that. just for one.

What did he actually say?

I think it's a case of Arsenal scapegoat syndrome a lot of the time. We as fans seem to need a player to point our bad vibes at.

It used to be Lehmann, then it was Eboue, Adebeyor has had a turn, and Bendtner is making a seat on the board his own.

Cut the guy some slack, he's an Arsenal player


I couldnt care less that he's an Arsenal player. All those players, with the exception of Ade, absolutely deserved to get a load of stick. Eboue is the worst player to wear an Arsenal shirt since Cygan. He is a poor player. What am I supposed to say? Oh, he's alright, even though he is often a liability? Get real!

I'm going to start underlying the part where I make my point I think :rolleyes:

People jump on him whether he's had a bad game or not, look at the thread you are in. A thread about a game where he scored and generally played well, and why?

Because some idiot journalist printed a story to destabilise the team.

Well done Mr journo, looks like you were partially successful :doh:


I wasnt even talking about the newspaper report in that post. I was talking about Eboue mainly.

and I can do the eyes as well :rolleyes:
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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby Good_Eye_Sniper » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:58 am

Up For Grabs Now wrote:
Good_Eye_Sniper wrote:
Up For Grabs Now wrote:
Good_Eye_Sniper wrote:
owainAFC wrote:watch the free video from arsenal tv with him that was up on the site a while back, he oozed arrogance in that. just for one.

What did he actually say?

I think it's a case of Arsenal scapegoat syndrome a lot of the time. We as fans seem to need a player to point our bad vibes at.

It used to be Lehmann, then it was Eboue, Adebeyor has had a turn, and Bendtner is making a seat on the board his own.

Cut the guy some slack, he's an Arsenal player


I couldnt care less that he's an Arsenal player. All those players, with the exception of Ade, absolutely deserved to get a load of stick. Eboue is the worst player to wear an Arsenal shirt since Cygan. He is a poor player. What am I supposed to say? Oh, he's alright, even though he is often a liability? Get real!

I'm going to start underlying the part where I make my point I think :rolleyes:

People jump on him whether he's had a bad game or not, look at the thread you are in. A thread about a game where he scored and generally played well, and why?

Because some idiot journalist printed a story to destabilise the team.

Well done Mr journo, looks like you were partially successful :doh:


I wasnt even talking about the newspaper report in that post. I was talking about Eboue mainly.

and I can do the eyes as well :rolleyes:

Alright mate, reel your neck in, we're not on 606 now :rolleyes:

You did state that you had "read a few papers" on it, and that's what I was referring to.

As for Eboue. So? The point stemmed from the furore about Bendtner. A story that was in the press that has got everyone's back up. Never mind that he's rubbished the reports himself

:sundae: <----Is that one less offensive? ;)
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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby owainAFC » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:58 am

Good_Eye_Sniper wrote:
owainAFC wrote:if he scores and gets an assist from mouthing off in the press before each game then so be it ;)

AGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

:BangHead: :BangHead: :BangHead: :BangHead:

He hasn't "mouthed off" in the press, this is the point we're making!!

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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby Inchpräctice » Tue Feb 17, 2009 1:59 am

Up For Grabs Now wrote: All those players, with the exception of Ade, absolutely deserved to get a load of stick at times. Eboue is the worst player to wear an Arsenal shirt since Cygan. He is a poor player. What am I supposed to say? Oh, he's alright, even though he is often a liability? Get real!

Ade didn't deserve stick?! He deserves more stick than anyone this season and in his first one.
So far this season he's shown less fight and determination than Bendtner despite being 4 years older and earning probably 3 times as much!!
Ade only has 3 more goals than Bendtner this season despite starting 20 games to Bendy's 9.
The way he's playing at the moment he deserves more stick than anyone.

But anyway the point isn't about giving players stick it's about making them the scapegoat.
If we lose or draw a match it's always Eboue's fault or Bendtner's fault or Ade's fault and the rest of the team (and the boss) get off scot-free. :dizzy:
The ludicrous thing about this thread is that we actually won the f***ing game, and Bendtner is still getting stick!! :doh: :dontknow: :dizzy:
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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby Good_Eye_Sniper » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:01 am

Inchpractice wrote:The ludicrous thing about this thread is that we actually won the f***ing game, and Bendtner is still getting stick!! :doh: :dontknow: :dizzy:

EXACTLY!!! :clap:
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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby UFGN » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:04 am

Inchpractice wrote:The ludicrous thing about this thread is that we actually won the f***ing game, and Bendtner is still getting stick!! :doh: :dontknow: :dizzy:



You're absolutely right. He's a divisive figure. He'll have to go :sneaky:
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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby StLGooner » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:08 am

Trina wrote:
Good_Eye_Sniper wrote:
Trina wrote:Every player you mentioned though GES are the weak links in Arsenal....

I'm not going to slag them off but I will bring up faults, as with any other player. But surely you must see they are the weak ones in the squad.

Agreed, with the exception of Lehmann, who was immense (unbeaten run anyone?)

It just seems to me that with these players, when they have a bad game, they're publicly crucified, but they don't get any recognition when they have a good game.

I think Bendtner was quality tonight, and I think he should get the praise for it, and to be honest, seeing that "newspaper report" really annoyed me because I know it's just the media identifying our current "scapegoat" and playing on it


Now you see I completely agree about them getting recognition for good games. Especially Bendtner. But personally the reason I don't as much is because I'm sick of seeing "oh where's all the Bendy haters now" etc etc when he scores or has a good game. Things like that make me not want to post positive things as it seems hypocritical when it shouldn't be. The first thing I think of is well it's only one goal, or 20 mins of a game instead of saying positive things.

Did that make sense? lol


Makes complete sense, thats exactly how I feel sometimes. I think I'm to the point now where I'd rather get rid of Ade instead of Bendtner, Nick has proved he's valuable, and at least he seems up for it, Ade is just going thru the motions.
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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby Good_Eye_Sniper » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:10 am

ChVint22 wrote:
Trina wrote:
Good_Eye_Sniper wrote:
Trina wrote:Every player you mentioned though GES are the weak links in Arsenal....

I'm not going to slag them off but I will bring up faults, as with any other player. But surely you must see they are the weak ones in the squad.

Agreed, with the exception of Lehmann, who was immense (unbeaten run anyone?)

It just seems to me that with these players, when they have a bad game, they're publicly crucified, but they don't get any recognition when they have a good game.

I think Bendtner was quality tonight, and I think he should get the praise for it, and to be honest, seeing that "newspaper report" really annoyed me because I know it's just the media identifying our current "scapegoat" and playing on it


Now you see I completely agree about them getting recognition for good games. Especially Bendtner. But personally the reason I don't as much is because I'm sick of seeing "oh where's all the Bendy haters now" etc etc when he scores or has a good game. Things like that make me not want to post positive things as it seems hypocritical when it shouldn't be. The first thing I think of is well it's only one goal, or 20 mins of a game instead of saying positive things.

Did that make sense? lol


Makes complete sense, thats exactly how I feel sometimes. I think I'm to the point now where I'd rather get rid of Ade instead of Bendtner, Nick has proved he's valuable, and at least he seems up for it, Ade is just going thru the motions.

I've been thinking exactly the same thing.

At least Bendtner seems to want to play, and we already know he plays well alongside Eduardo, as he proved last season.
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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby arsenalyank » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:15 am

Good_Eye_Sniper wrote:
ChVint22 wrote:
Trina wrote:
Good_Eye_Sniper wrote:
Trina wrote:Every player you mentioned though GES are the weak links in Arsenal....

I'm not going to slag them off but I will bring up faults, as with any other player. But surely you must see they are the weak ones in the squad.

Agreed, with the exception of Lehmann, who was immense (unbeaten run anyone?)

It just seems to me that with these players, when they have a bad game, they're publicly crucified, but they don't get any recognition when they have a good game.

I think Bendtner was quality tonight, and I think he should get the praise for it, and to be honest, seeing that "newspaper report" really annoyed me because I know it's just the media identifying our current "scapegoat" and playing on it


Now you see I completely agree about them getting recognition for good games. Especially Bendtner. But personally the reason I don't as much is because I'm sick of seeing "oh where's all the Bendy haters now" etc etc when he scores or has a good game. Things like that make me not want to post positive things as it seems hypocritical when it shouldn't be. The first thing I think of is well it's only one goal, or 20 mins of a game instead of saying positive things.

Did that make sense? lol


Makes complete sense, thats exactly how I feel sometimes. I think I'm to the point now where I'd rather get rid of Ade instead of Bendtner, Nick has proved he's valuable, and at least he seems up for it, Ade is just going thru the motions.

I've been thinking exactly the same thing.

At least Bendtner seems to want to play, and we already know he plays well alongside Eduardo, as he proved last season.


I agree if teams are willing to pay for Ade what was suggested in the summer. However, right now, considering his form, not sure if he'd get half that.
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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby Inchpräctice » Tue Feb 17, 2009 2:17 am

It's an interesting pattern because as Ade gets lazier, Bendy gets more energetic so we'll see if anything comes of that.
Now that I've said that Bendy will probably have the worst game of his life next time he plays.
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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

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Re: Arsenal Vs Cardiff | FA Cup R4 Replay 16/02/09

Postby arseman » Tue Feb 17, 2009 5:26 am

jayantmoudgil wrote:
She_Gunner_Wales wrote:Just got some cracking pics from PA of Eduardo tonight! :D

Why don't you post em here for all SGW


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