Ivan Toney

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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Fri Apr 12, 2024 11:06 pm

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Eww. We can do far better than this, especially for the price. Much rather have Watkins than Toney, it's not even close. And I don't rate Watkins as high as others.


Watkins isn't for sale, Toney is.

We also shouldn't embarrass ourselves by bidding for a player developed by our former manager, because our £500k pw Kaisus project has flopped.
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby jayramfootball » Sat Apr 13, 2024 10:57 am

VCC wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Ach wrote:
Arsenal and Chelsea are closely monitoring Brentford and England striker Ivan Toney, 28, who would cost up to £40m this summer. (Florian Plettenberg) 


40m

No brainer


He's currently on the same number of PL goals as Jesus (4), coming back from a long ban and playing in a bottom half team. But apparently only the likes of Mbappe would be a suitable upgrade.


He also has less goals than Nketiah having played more minutes than Nketiah.
Where to now?
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Put eddie in that side see what you get.
Eddie gets service tony does not


Wrong - Toney has had more chances to score than Nketiah this season and scored less.
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby Roycck » Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:03 am

Get this guy in tbh. He can be a decent backup for Havertz/Jesus.

Also not in the region of £80m.
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby VCC » Sun Aug 11, 2024 6:56 am

jayramfootball wrote:
VCC wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Ach wrote:
Arsenal and Chelsea are closely monitoring Brentford and England striker Ivan Toney, 28, who would cost up to £40m this summer. (Florian Plettenberg) 


40m

No brainer


He's currently on the same number of PL goals as Jesus (4), coming back from a long ban and playing in a bottom half team. But apparently only the likes of Mbappe would be a suitable upgrade.


He also has less goals than Nketiah having played more minutes than Nketiah.
Where to now?
:dontknow:

Put eddie in that side see what you get.
Eddie gets service tony does not


Wrong - Toney has had more chances to score than Nketiah this season and scored less.

He couldn't play half the season.
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby Nuggets » Sun Aug 11, 2024 7:33 am

Bring him in we could do a lot worse
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby VCC » Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:28 am

Nuggets wrote:Bring him in we could do a lot worse

There is a reason Toney was at the Euro and Eddie was making burgers at McD's
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby Nuggets » Sun Aug 11, 2024 10:47 am

VCC wrote:
Nuggets wrote:Bring him in we could do a lot worse

There is a reason Toney was at the Euro and Eddie was making burgers at McD's

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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Aug 11, 2024 12:31 pm

VCC wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
VCC wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Ach wrote:
Arsenal and Chelsea are closely monitoring Brentford and England striker Ivan Toney, 28, who would cost up to £40m this summer. (Florian Plettenberg) 


40m

No brainer


He's currently on the same number of PL goals as Jesus (4), coming back from a long ban and playing in a bottom half team. But apparently only the likes of Mbappe would be a suitable upgrade.


He also has less goals than Nketiah having played more minutes than Nketiah.
Where to now?
:dontknow:

Put eddie in that side see what you get.
Eddie gets service tony does not


Wrong - Toney has had more chances to score than Nketiah this season and scored less.

He couldn't play half the season.


Nope - he played more than Nketiah - and scored less.
He had more chances to score than Nketiah - and scored less
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby VCC » Sun Aug 11, 2024 5:58 pm

jayramfootball wrote:
VCC wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
VCC wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Ach wrote:
Arsenal and Chelsea are closely monitoring Brentford and England striker Ivan Toney, 28, who would cost up to £40m this summer. (Florian Plettenberg) 


40m

No brainer


He's currently on the same number of PL goals as Jesus (4), coming back from a long ban and playing in a bottom half team. But apparently only the likes of Mbappe would be a suitable upgrade.


He also has less goals than Nketiah having played more minutes than Nketiah.
Where to now?
:dontknow:

Put eddie in that side see what you get.
Eddie gets service tony does not


Wrong - Toney has had more chances to score than Nketiah this season and scored less.

He couldn't play half the season.


Nope - he played more than Nketiah - and scored less.
He had more chances to score than Nketiah - and scored less

As per usual the point went straight over your head,
Wasn't part of the team had no off season and no game time, hard to get cohesive performance like that.
Eddie lost Arteta trust end of, Arteta backed him, kept him and apart from the hat trick he got all that time ago he got repaid not alot, that seasons tally would have been dreadful apart from one performance.
Last season was the end of Eddie we saw others played ahead of him and he become a player who come on at the very end of games in all honesty was a time waster to watch the clock tick down in the actual change and for somebody to close down defenders which he gave up doing anyways.
The guy was never and will never be good enough leeds knew it Arteta knows it, and I would love him to get a Premeir league contract so the world could see it,
But he ain't good enough to get one.
Where ever he goes it won't last
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby jayramfootball » Sun Aug 11, 2024 11:26 pm

VCC wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
VCC wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
VCC wrote:
jayramfootball wrote:
Highbury Hillbilly wrote:
Ach wrote:
Arsenal and Chelsea are closely monitoring Brentford and England striker Ivan Toney, 28, who would cost up to £40m this summer. (Florian Plettenberg) 


40m

No brainer


He's currently on the same number of PL goals as Jesus (4), coming back from a long ban and playing in a bottom half team. But apparently only the likes of Mbappe would be a suitable upgrade.


He also has less goals than Nketiah having played more minutes than Nketiah.
Where to now?
:dontknow:

Put eddie in that side see what you get.
Eddie gets service tony does not


Wrong - Toney has had more chances to score than Nketiah this season and scored less.

He couldn't play half the season.


Nope - he played more than Nketiah - and scored less.
He had more chances to score than Nketiah - and scored less

As per usual the point went straight over your head,
Wasn't part of the team had no off season and no game time, hard to get cohesive performance like that.
Eddie lost Arteta trust end of, Arteta backed him, kept him and apart from the hat trick he got all that time ago he got repaid not alot, that seasons tally would have been dreadful apart from one performance.
Last season was the end of Eddie we saw others played ahead of him and he become a player who come on at the very end of games in all honesty was a time waster to watch the clock tick down in the actual change and for somebody to close down defenders which he gave up doing anyways.
The guy was never and will never be good enough leeds knew it Arteta knows it, and I would love him to get a Premeir league contract so the world could see it,
But he ain't good enough to get one.
Where ever he goes it won't last


One of the best 3rd choice strikers in the league.
As for your point about Toney, it remains the case that he played more last year and had more chances to score than Nketiah, but scored less.
Excuses are not going to change that.
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby Roycck » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:55 am

With Edu unwilling to splash the cash (£80m) this window. Toney makes no sense as a backup plan B striker and also with better hold up play than Eddie.

Good aerial presence as well. I am sure he can contribute with 10-15 goals with Odegaard spraying the passes.
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby firfi » Mon Aug 12, 2024 2:05 pm

I was and still am big Toney fan however hes not gonna come to Arsenal to play 3rd choice ,because he smells there is a chance for him to get England spot after Kane retires or even if he doesn't there is big chance for him and Watkins to push for that spot.
No idea how you see him scoring 10-15 goals when he has scored once 20 goals playing every game starting with 6 of those goals coming from penalties which is effectively 14 goal best season.
There is no way in hell he makes 10-15 goals from the bench or as rotation there is only a chance he makes that number if he starts week and week out and i doubt hes gonna score significantly more than Havertz anyway over as strikers.

Obvious upgr over Eddie ,but hes never coming to be 3rd choice in Arsenal even second choice i doubt it.
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby Losmeister » Thu Aug 29, 2024 5:55 pm

"Toney makes no sense as a backup plan B striker and also with better hold up play than Eddie."

typo? reading makes sense as b/u to Kai And Jesus with better hold up play seems to m ake sense to me

not being THE GUY.,.. and also now here close to 80 millions
Kai Havertz nutmegged ur GK
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby tweetstreet » Fri Aug 30, 2024 11:17 am

£40m to go to Saudi. At that Price he's probably worth us making a bid. If he chose Saudi over us for the money it shows his attitude isn't right for us anyway.

With the gambling etc I'm not sure he suits the team atmosphere and attitude Arteta has built right now either anyway
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Re: Ivan Toney

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Fri Aug 30, 2024 12:32 pm

We don't have £40m to spend, so we didn't make a bid.

No need to understate Toney's quality or attitude because he chose Saudi. He's proven himself in the PL, and Saudis aren't signing chancers.

He'd be far more useful to us than Jesus or Sterling, who can't get into their NTs and whose output is nowhere near commensurate to their Saudi-level wages.
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