Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby gooney » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:17 pm

Jedi wrote:More spicy stuff from Ornstein: https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46722051

Apparently Ramsey was fine with leaving in January but we have decided not to sell.
Ramsey might have been open to departing in January, however Arsenal feel his relative value to the squad for the rest of the season is greater than what they could recoup through a transfer fee and salary savings.

Potential suitors are now unwilling to pay the sort of money that would tempt the Gunners to part with their longest-serving player mid-campaign, thought to be around £40m.


Also linked with Denis Suarez and Kroenke doesn't want to spend any money (imagine my shock)

With no major departures expected in January and heavy investment in new signings and contracts over the past year, Arsenal do not have significant funds to spend in the upcoming transfer window.

Any permanent acquisitions, loan fees and salaries will be drawn from a modest budget and therefore loan deals are more probable, with out-of-favour Barcelona midfielder Denis Suarez, 24, among those under consideration. That budget is likely to increase substantially in the summer.

There have been conversations about recalling defender Calum Chambers and winger Reiss Nelson from loan spells at Fulham and Hoffenheim respectively, but with Chambers the chances are remote because breaking his season-long deal would incur a fee, while there is reluctance to disrupt Nelson's progress in Germany.

There is no indication Arsenal owner Stan Kroenke will inject any of his personal wealth, which tallies with the club's managing director Vinai Venkatesham reaffirming their commitment to a "self-sustaining business model" during an interview with the BBC in October.

Kroenke providing external resources for player recruitment could also raise potential issues with Arsenal's ability to comply with football's Financial Fair Play rules and Premier League regulations limiting how much a wage bill can increase year on year.

Furthermore, the club are said to be realistic about their current capabilities relative to those of rival teams. This partly explains their commitment to young players and confidence in the talent coming through.

Although Saturday's 5-1 defeat at Liverpool saw head coach Unai Emery and the club hierarchy criticised in some quarters, there is an internal belief that they are moving in the right direction after a tumultuous period which saw Arsene Wenger leave as manager after 22 years in charge and numerous staff and structural changes behind the scenes.

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gooney wrote:That time of the season where our fans dream about signings and oinstein kills their dream. 2 years with no cl football and dont look like to return anytime soon. Its time to accept where we are in the food chain. Europa league next few years is our only chance to cl. The club dont have money

Also keep his word in mind because our fans will accuse him of misleading them. He never said the budget in the summer will be big. Just biggee than than the winter one which is loans

Yeah, what does "substantially more" even mean? Sounds like a lot but is it substantially more than zero? Could be 40 or 50 mil again.

All this tall of building the youth really feels like we're trying to become a Premier League Dortmund of sorts. Can't help but feel worried by all this.



They talk like politician and feed Ornstein what their message. But if you read through their words they are basically saying we cant and wont attempt to compete with the top teams. As long as we have the highest tickets and fans are willing to pay we will work hard to decrease the wage bill which will mean we dont really need ~CL football in order to make money. Commitment to young players is bullshit statement. Last 2 games we had the likes of saka, nketiah and willock on the bench. They are there just to fill the bench with zero chance of getting in. If you are serious about young players you would play one instead of Lich. You would have given Ballard a chance instead of Xhaka as a CB. if the most promising CB in the reserve isnt a better CB than Xhaka, then not only does he has no future here, but there is no quality coming through
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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby Sims » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:28 am

Given that we’ve practically got no budget would not signing anyone be a good idea? We’ve got nothing to play for really so why not wait until the summer to assess all options?
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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby Marsbar100 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 11:48 am

Still got the fa cup and El to play for, imagine signing pavon and bringing nelson back the squad would have be massively boosted.
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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby Dejan » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:06 pm

Sims wrote:Given that we’ve practically got no budget would not signing anyone be a good idea? We’ve got nothing to play for really so why not wait until the summer to assess all options?
Why shouldnt we go all out for the europa league? By the time of the quarter finals and above we might have a fully fit squad.

Just because we have been shit the last 3 games, doesnt mean we will get back up again and compete for top 4 and europa league

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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby ESR10 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:14 pm

Dejan wrote:
Sims wrote:Given that we’ve practically got no budget would not signing anyone be a good idea? We’ve got nothing to play for really so why not wait until the summer to assess all options?
Why shouldnt we go all out for the europa league? By the time of the quarter finals and above we might have a fully fit squad.

Just because we have been shit the last 3 games, doesnt mean we will get back up again and compete for top 4 and europa league

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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby Sims » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:25 pm

Dejan wrote:
Sims wrote:Given that we’ve practically got no budget would not signing anyone be a good idea? We’ve got nothing to play for really so why not wait until the summer to assess all options?
Why shouldnt we go all out for the europa league? By the time of the quarter finals and above we might have a fully fit squad.

Just because we have been shit the last 3 games, doesnt mean we will get back up again and compete for top 4 and europa league

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I think the top 4 is pretty much settled now unless we beat Chelsea at home, if United beat us as well they’re dragged into it

Or stein said were only looking at loan options like Denis Suarez anyway instead of permanent moves in January, so it seems we’re gonna do it anyway
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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby Dejan » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:30 pm

Chelsea is very beatable so top 4 is still on.

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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby Angelito » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:34 pm

Top-4 is gone.

EL or bust.
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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby Marsbar100 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 12:50 pm

Ideally we need to be making signings every window, we need a cb, lb, RB, DM, cm and a winger. That will take two years at least.

We also need to get rid of guys like Mustafi, mkhy, welbeck, Ramsey, one of Monreal/Kola, xhaka, kos, litschtiener, elneny, possibly ozil if he doesn't get his shit together.

We should be busy wheeling and dealing, our squad needs surgery more than anyone else in the top 6.
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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:26 pm

Sims wrote:Given that we’ve practically got no budget would not signing anyone be a good idea? We’ve got nothing to play for really so why not wait until the summer to assess all options?


No it wouldn't.

We have the Europa and top 4 to push for if anyone above has a dip in results.

Nothing to play for?? Jesus wept.
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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby UFGN » Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:23 pm

DiamondGooner wrote:
Sims wrote:Given that we’ve practically got no budget would not signing anyone be a good idea? We’ve got nothing to play for really so why not wait until the summer to assess all options?


No it wouldn't.

We have the Europa and top 4 to push for if anyone above has a dip in results.

Nothing to play for?? Jesus wept.


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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby tufnelltoughie » Tue Jan 01, 2019 7:31 pm

We're going to lose Ramsey on a free and maybe Ozil on loan from what is already a threadbare squad.

WE need to replace and reinforce as much as possible this month even if only short term loans.
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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby indy23 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:08 pm

Kroenke should be getting all the stick.
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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby Arsenal Tone » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:42 pm

The modern day equivalents to Sol Campbell, Silvinho and Robert Pires are what is needed.
Raya/Ramsdale
White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
???/Jorginho
Odegaard/Smith Rowe----Rice/???
Saka/Jesus-------------------Martinelli/Trossard
???/Havertz
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Re: Winter Transfer Window: What Do We Need?

Postby Arsenal Tone » Tue Jan 01, 2019 9:45 pm

Tony_Adams wrote:The modern day equivalents to Sol Campbell, Silvinho and Robert Pires are what is needed.
An experienced premier league centre back just reaching his peak, a left back happy to come in and rotate and a winger who has proven themselves in a lesser league and looking to make the leap into the premier league.
Raya/Ramsdale
White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
???/Jorginho
Odegaard/Smith Rowe----Rice/???
Saka/Jesus-------------------Martinelli/Trossard
???/Havertz
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