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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby gamechannel » Mon Jan 08, 2018 4:46 pm

No chance we get Lemar or anyone else of top quality with the transfer fees that is going around. Wenger and the board are under the illusion that they can fight the over-inflated world of football transfer fees by sticking to their ideals.

When a good player (read: not a superstar) player like Coutinho goes for almost 150 million pounds, there is no chance we can compete in this market for good players.

Our best hope would have been internal development but considering that we have dross like Nelson, Willock, ANM, Iwobi, Akpom as our top prospects, we will not see anyone of even reasonable skill and impact come through the youth ranks and lead this club to glory.

In short - we are f***ked until we start spending some real money and join the party of crazy transfer fees- which is impossible with the club being led by the Moustached Yankee and his cronies.
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby redordead » Mon Jan 08, 2018 5:32 pm

gamechannel wrote:No chance we get Lemar or anyone else of top quality with the transfer fees that is going around. Wenger and the board are under the illusion that they can fight the over-inflated world of football transfer fees by sticking to their ideals.

When a good player (read: not a superstar) player like Coutinho goes for almost 150 million pounds, there is no chance we can compete in this market for good players.

Our best hope would have been internal development but considering that we have dross like Nelson, Willock, ANM, Iwobi, Akpom as our top prospects, we will not see anyone of even reasonable skill and impact come through the youth ranks and lead this club to glory.

In short - we are f***ked until we start spending some real money and join the party of crazy transfer fees- which is impossible with the club being led by the Moustached Yankee and his cronies.

This is true but we have the money that's what pisses people off
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby KG3 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 6:17 pm

Not worth the money they'd want for him considering that we could buy both Draxler and Mahrez for around the same fee combined if not slightly more.
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby Özim » Mon Jan 08, 2018 8:14 pm

But probably won't buy either. We could have bought Draxler countless times by now and Mahrez we're just point blank not interested in. We'll start looking for replacements once Sanchez and/or Ozil are gone, by then these players will most likely be at other clubs.
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:24 pm

*Apparently, Lemar’s not Liverpool main priority as they want Goretzka. Also, Monaco are open to letting lemar leave this window but only if huge offer comes in:

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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby Losmeister » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:30 pm

lemar to replace alexis = poverty of goals and chances
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby gooney » Mon Jan 08, 2018 11:41 pm

Lool lemar is not even a 40 million player. This is the priblem of having money but no top playee interested in joining you. Sadly i can see our embarassing fans build him up as world class
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby EliteKiller » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:35 am

Sell Sanchez to City (seems certain to go through this week) get 30m and then spend 70m on Lemar ......

Lemar's a good player and perhaps the best available but does anyone seriously think he's in Alexi's class .....

When we were looking to add Lemar as a replacement for Theo/Wellbeck/Iwobi that was moving forward ... this is just another trade down .....

But what choice do we have? Wonger has dragged us so far down our 'world class' players want out and we can't attract replacements .... and that's in the years before Spuds get a new ground and a huge cash uplift .... worrying times
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby Mike Dean » Tue Jan 09, 2018 12:59 am

Losmeister wrote:lemar to replace alexis = poverty of goals and chances


We would be lucky to even add Lemar.

Most likely Alexis will be replaced by a Iwobi/Welbeck of the sort.
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby CaptGooner » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:01 am

Mike Dean wrote:
Losmeister wrote:lemar to replace alexis = poverty of goals and chances


We would be lucky to even add Lemar.

Most likely Alexis will be replaced by a Iwobi/Welbeck of the sort.

Or just Iwobi/Welbeck, no additional sort needed.
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby Angelito » Tue Jan 09, 2018 3:06 am

I hope he doesn't join Arsenal. Would be career suicide. Liverpool would be a better option for him.
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby DiamondGooner » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:00 am

EliteKiller wrote:Sell Sanchez to City (seems certain to go through this week) get 30m and then spend 70m on Lemar ......

Lemar's a good player and perhaps the best available but does anyone seriously think he's in Alexi's class .....

When we were looking to add Lemar as a replacement for Theo/Wellbeck/Iwobi that was moving forward ... this is just another trade down .....

But what choice do we have? Wonger has dragged us so far down our 'world class' players want out and we can't attract replacements .... and that's in the years before Spuds get a new ground and a huge cash uplift .... worrying times


Did anyone say he was in Alexis's class? because I've not seen one person say that.

We can't afford Sanchez's class hence why he's leaving, when we bought him he was a Barcelona cast off and that immediately made him the best player we have when he walked through our crappy ass doors ........ I mean Barcelona cast off or not who do we have better than anyone who's donned their shirt? what Ramsey gtfo.

We won't spend the money to get a WC player off the rack, our best bet is to do what we did with Ozil and Sanchez and raid elite teams who are so busting at the seams with talent they don't blink to let players like Morata, Ozil, Sanchez, Higuan go.

A cast off from any of the biggest 4 would automatically be better than anyone we have.
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby gamechannel » Tue Jan 09, 2018 4:55 am

redordead wrote:
gamechannel wrote:No chance we get Lemar or anyone else of top quality with the transfer fees that is going around. Wenger and the board are under the illusion that they can fight the over-inflated world of football transfer fees by sticking to their ideals.

When a good player (read: not a superstar) player like Coutinho goes for almost 150 million pounds, there is no chance we can compete in this market for good players.

Our best hope would have been internal development but considering that we have dross like Nelson, Willock, ANM, Iwobi, Akpom as our top prospects, we will not see anyone of even reasonable skill and impact come through the youth ranks and lead this club to glory.

In short - we are f***ked until we start spending some real money and join the party of crazy transfer fees- which is impossible with the club being led by the Moustached Yankee and his cronies.

This is true but we have the money that's what pisses people off


The club surely has money but it is not for spending on players.

Think about it:

I am of the firm belief that every year, Wenger is only given 50 million to spend - it was the case during the Ozil window, it was the case during the Cech and Sanchez window, it was the case during the Arteta et al window. In the summer of 2016 Wenger actually spend a net of 100 million on Xhaka, Mustafi, Perez and Holding - exceeding his allocated budget by 50 million. So, what does the board do? Give him zero to spend in the summer of 2017.

He blew 40 on Laca in the crazy transfer market of today knowing full well that he will have to sell players to make that money back. Which he did by selling chezny, Gibbs and Gabriel.

While he was still trying to tie down Ox to a new deal, he used Lemar as a backup option with a paltry 35 million bid for him knowing full well that if Ox rejects the final offer, he will be able to sell him to Chelski or Liverpool for around 35 million - money he was offering for Lemar until early August.

Once it became clear towards late August that Ox aint signing the 180k per week deal, wenger sold him to Liverpool for 35 million - money that was available to him . Also by this time, it had become clear that Monaco ain't selling Lemar for a shitty 35 million bid.

By this time, it had also become clear that all efforts to convince Alexis to stay were futile and he wanted to go to City. On deadline day, in came City with a 60 million bid which we allegedly accepted with the condition that we will be able to find a replacement for him. What do we do? We take that 60 million and add the 35 from Ox sale to put in a 95 million bid for Lemar. Which was accepted but due to last minute formalities and the fact Lemar was involved in international match, deal couldn't get done (or as rumor has it, he turned us down). We go to City and pull the plug on alexis deal as well knowing that not only it will be a PR disaster to let him go without replacement but I firmly believe that more importantly, Wenger knew that that 95 million will no longer be available to him past the summer transfer deadline. So what does he do? He says, f**k the club heirarchy - I will improve my chances of getting a top 4 spot by keeping Alexis anyway - a polite, subtle middle finger to the club.

I hate Wenger as much as any other Wenger Out proponent - but I do believe the problems run way deeper in this club and actually start with the owner and the board. Wenger, although an arguably incompetent coach, has had his hands tied and perhaps has been too loyal to Arsenal football club that he does not want to leave the club into anyone else's hands knowing full well that any incoming manager will have to deal with similar BS from the owner and the board and will likely fail on the footballing side and will have a public falling out with the club bringing to light the inner turmoil at the club. I think Arsene is now trying to protect the sacred Arsenal name from public humiliation. I genuinely believe Arsene has been sacrificing his own professional ambitions because he loves Arsenal too much and does not want the idiots sitting in the boardroom run the club into the ground if he is not around.
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby indy23 » Tue Jan 09, 2018 5:38 am

If that's the case enjoy playing pub Europa sides before losing to our equals like atheltico and bvb.
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Re: Thomas Lemar

Postby gamechannel » Tue Jan 09, 2018 6:19 am

indy23 wrote:If that's the case enjoy playing pub Europa sides before losing to our equals like atheltico and bvb.


At this point, I'd even argue that Atletico and BVB are better than us at the moment. They do not have to compete with oil money, play in far less competitive leagues and as a result, do not have to pay inflated prices for average players. These clubs are conditioned to be second fiddles to the big boys of their respective leagues and have a consistent model of being selling clubs that buy low and sell high. We, on the other hand, are stuck between the conflicting idealogy of thinking we are a big club - but with small ambitions. We are in denial and unless we start spending serious cash, we will not be considered a big club.
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