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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby Lolzil » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:22 am

Mahrez will clearly play better in a better team though.
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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:53 am

Sims wrote:Case of Mahrez & Leicester overperforming in terms of expected goals scored & conceded rather than a true sign of ability

You can't see that mahrez has amazing technical ability?
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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby Sims » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:59 am

Yes

Can also see in the evidence of last season that it's easy to crowd him out
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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby Marsbar100 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 12:11 pm

Sims wrote:Yes

Can also see in the evidence of last season that it's easy to crowd him out


He had 2 or 3 men on him, no one will do that to us as we have to many other threats.
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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby DiamondGooner » Sun Jul 23, 2017 4:32 pm

We should just sign this guy, regardless of Lemar or Sanchez which is a different kettle of fish tbf, if we sign Riyad then we can look to offload Welbeck or Walcott in January when we see who performs better.

Papers are saying he's going to reject Roma, think his agent may of had an encouraging phone call with Arsenal?
Maybe we're trying to make Leicester sweat so they take a reasonable bid?
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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby Zenith » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:23 pm

Marsbar100 wrote:
Sims wrote:Yes

Can also see in the evidence of last season that it's easy to crowd him out


He had 2 or 3 men on him, no one will do that to us as we have to many other threats.

Alexis gets closed down just as often - as does Hazard.

Difference is Alexis and Hazard have a great burst of pace, whereas Mahrez—also very technically gifted—is rather sluggish and extremely one-footed.

What irks me about Mahrez is he's all about cuting inside, rince and repeat, minus Robben's or Alexis' consistent end product as he's nowhere near as explosive.

This worked for him really well until oppositions took note. Yet he keeps doing it over and over again running into one cul-de-sack after the other.
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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby Zedie » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:33 pm

Zenith wrote:
Marsbar100 wrote:
Sims wrote:Yes

Can also see in the evidence of last season that it's easy to crowd him out


He had 2 or 3 men on him, no one will do that to us as we have to many other threats.

Alexis gets closed down just as often - as does Hazard.

Difference is Alexis and Hazard have a great burst of pace, whereas Mahrez is rather sluggish and extremely one-footed.

What irks me about Mahrez is he's all about cuting inside, rince and repeat, minus Robben's or Alexis' end product as he's nowhere near as explosive.

This worked for him really well until oppositions took note. Yet he keeps doing it over and over again running into one cul-de-sack after the other.


This can happen, but unlike Alexis and hazard, he doesn't have ballers he can pass off to to create more space. No ozil, cesc, ramsey, cazorla, willian to share the load, only Danny drinkwater.

If the onus is not on him to literally create everything, maybe he can flourish.
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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby indy23 » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:39 pm

We need people who can make things happen in the middle.of the park. Win and push ball up field.
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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:42 pm

With Mahrez, the issue is that at Leicester, you know you have to focus on Mahrez and Vardy. With Vardy's only good thing being his finishing, and persistence, that means you can stick two men on Mahrez since you know he'll be the source of their attacks.

At Arsenal, do you stick two at Mahrez, and risk him getting off a pass to Ozil who finds Lacazette? Or assuming Sanchez stays, how do you mark both?
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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby Zenith » Sun Jul 23, 2017 5:59 pm

Zedie wrote:
Zenith wrote:
Marsbar100 wrote:
Sims wrote:Yes

Can also see in the evidence of last season that it's easy to crowd him out


He had 2 or 3 men on him, no one will do that to us as we have to many other threats.

Alexis gets closed down just as often - as does Hazard.

Difference is Alexis and Hazard have a great burst of pace, whereas Mahrez is rather sluggish and extremely one-footed.

What irks me about Mahrez is he's all about cuting inside, rince and repeat, minus Robben's or Alexis' end product as he's nowhere near as explosive.

This worked for him really well until oppositions took note. Yet he keeps doing it over and over again running into one cul-de-sack after the other.


This can happen, but unlike Alexis and hazard, he doesn't have ballers he can pass off to to create more space. No ozil, cesc, ramsey, cazorla, willian to share the load, only Danny drinkwater.

If the onus is not on him to literally create everything, maybe he can flourish.

While this is very true - no one forces him to cut inside again and again.

If he was able to mix his game up a little bit more he wouldn't have struggled as much as he did last season imo.
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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby Zenith » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:21 pm

GoonerAlexis wrote:With Mahrez, the issue is that at Leicester, you know you have to focus on Mahrez and Vardy. With Vardy's only good thing being his finishing, and persistence, that means you can stick two men on Mahrez since you know he'll be the source of their attacks.

At Arsenal, do you stick two at Mahrez, and risk him getting off a pass to Ozil who finds Lacazette? Or assuming Sanchez stays, how do you mark both?

It's not incredible difficult for a competent set of defenders to single mark either of Özil or Mahrez considering they will cut onto their left foot 95% of the time and in addition to that aren't very quick off the mark.

It's players like Sanchez, Mané and Hazard who usually bring teams into trouble as they have that extra burst off acceleration in addition to their dribbling ability that Özil and Mahrez don't have.

I wouldn't be depressed if we got Mahrez but I think we need a less predictable player who has to ability to use either foot to great effect in addition to skill and pace.

Someone like Felipe Anderson could potentially fit that bill -

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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Sun Jul 23, 2017 6:24 pm

He'll need to adapt to the PL though
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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby yadunoe » Mon Jul 24, 2017 4:21 am

Mahrez will be very good for us i can see him returning to POY form if he comes here and his added assist and goal threat would make us lethal. With that being said id bid 65m plus add ones for lemar taking it up to 70 and if monoco reject then we should bid 45 for mahrez and make it happen undont want to wait late in the window anymore we got to be prepared for the first game.
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Riyad Mahrez

Postby BoomXhakaLaca » Thu Jul 27, 2017 3:32 pm

Whats happened to Mahrez to Arsenal? Are we going to go after him if Lemar doesn't work out?
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Re: Riyad Mahrez

Postby Callum » Thu Jul 27, 2017 4:26 pm

maybe
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