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Re: Isco

Postby elkanofan » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:05 pm

back on topic


Zenith wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:Would walk in to our team and capable of hacking it from the word go. He has the strength and speed to deal with the premiership. Capable of playing in any of the three positions behind the Striker.

If Eriksen can hack it strength-wise, so can Ísco. Having said that, he's not quick at all. If Ísco is quick, Jack is rapid, which he isn't. Quick enough for an attacking mid, yes. Quick enough for a Premier League winger, whilst taking into consideration his other traits? No.

Ísco is a flair player, technically sublime, but he has some serious weaknesses that are being overlooked - Real Madrid fans (not the glory-hunting, petulant kind) and Spanish pundits almost unanimously agree on that. If you look a bit further than his touch and flicks, his actual contributions and efficiency leaves a lot to be desired. Often caught hanging on to the ball for far too long, ending up dispossessed, unable to spot runs and disappear whenever he plays on the wing and has to take care of his defensive duties.

What's crucial for an attacking midfielder is knowing when to pick a pass and when to hold on to the ball, Ísco struggles with that. He can still grow as a player, but hasn't done any of that in recent years. Yet we want to spend £35-45m on what will be our second choice CAM and make-shift winger (- and not a very good one at that)? Not saying we should be cheapskates but that's a huge chunk of money you can spend on a player that suits our needs more.

Ísco needs a free, but central role behind the striker to excell and grow as a player, playing him on the wing consistently is a crime and the only reason that's the case now at Real Madrid is because he can't get into the team ahead of James.



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whoever


That caz/ozil/isco triangle is fully capable f dominating games and controlling them which is something we are lacking right now. Walcott could work well upfront in this lineup.

Sims wrote:If Silva doesn't get over his injury problems he could go there?


thats the concern.
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Re: Isco

Postby Santi » Tue Feb 09, 2016 8:30 pm

Sims wrote:If Silva doesn't get over his injury problems he could go there?



Wouldn't mind, that's a massive downgrade on current ability.
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Re: Isco

Postby Angelito » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:48 pm

With Pep going to City, don't think they'll go for Isco. Think Neymar will move to City at some point in time. Unlike Messi, he's not Barca. Moreover, if Mourinho joins ManU, there could be a huge battle between the two Manchester clubs for him.


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Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:Would walk in to our team and capable of hacking it from the word go. He has the strength and speed to deal with the premiership. Capable of playing in any of the three positions behind the Striker.

If Eriksen can hack it strength-wise, so can Ísco. Having said that, he's not quick at all. If Ísco is quick, Jack is rapid, which he isn't. Quick enough for an attacking mid, yes. Quick enough for a Premier League winger, whilst taking into consideration his other traits? No.

Ísco is a flair player, technically sublime, but he has some serious weaknesses that are being overlooked - Real Madrid fans (not the glory-hunting, petulant kind) and Spanish pundits almost unanimously agree on that. If you look a bit further than his touch and flicks, his actual contributions and efficiency leaves a lot to be desired. Often caught hanging on to the ball for far too long, ending up dispossessed, unable to spot runs and disappear whenever he plays on the wing and has to take care of his defensive duties.

What's crucial for an attacking midfielder is knowing when to pick a pass and when to hold on to the ball, Ísco struggles with that. He can still grow as a player, but hasn't done any of that in recent years. Yet we want to spend £35-45m on what will be our second choice CAM and make-shift winger (- and not a very good one at that)? Not saying we should be cheapskates but that's a huge chunk of money you can spend on a player that suits our needs more.

Ísco needs a free, but central role behind the striker to excell and grow as a player, playing him on the wing consistently is a crime and the only reason that's the case now at Real Madrid is because he can't get into the team ahead of James.


Would be a perfect deputy for Ozil tbh. :hiding:
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Re: Isco

Postby gooney » Thu Feb 11, 2016 2:30 pm

elkanofan wrote:back on topic


Zenith wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:Would walk in to our team and capable of hacking it from the word go. He has the strength and speed to deal with the premiership. Capable of playing in any of the three positions behind the Striker.

If Eriksen can hack it strength-wise, so can Ísco. Having said that, he's not quick at all. If Ísco is quick, Jack is rapid, which he isn't. Quick enough for an attacking mid, yes. Quick enough for a Premier League winger, whilst taking into consideration his other traits? No.

Ísco is a flair player, technically sublime, but he has some serious weaknesses that are being overlooked - Real Madrid fans (not the glory-hunting, petulant kind) and Spanish pundits almost unanimously agree on that. If you look a bit further than his touch and flicks, his actual contributions and efficiency leaves a lot to be desired. Often caught hanging on to the ball for far too long, ending up dispossessed, unable to spot runs and disappear whenever he plays on the wing and has to take care of his defensive duties.

What's crucial for an attacking midfielder is knowing when to pick a pass and when to hold on to the ball, Ísco struggles with that. He can still grow as a player, but hasn't done any of that in recent years. Yet we want to spend £35-45m on what will be our second choice CAM and make-shift winger (- and not a very good one at that)? Not saying we should be cheapskates but that's a huge chunk of money you can spend on a player that suits our needs more.

Ísco needs a free, but central role behind the striker to excell and grow as a player, playing him on the wing consistently is a crime and the only reason that's the case now at Real Madrid is because he can't get into the team ahead of James.



caz - coq

isco - ozil - alexis

whoever


That caz/ozil/isco triangle is fully capable f dominating games and controlling them which is something we are lacking right now. Walcott could work well upfront in this lineup.

Sims wrote:If Silva doesn't get over his injury problems he could go there?


thats the concern.

Thats no improvement on what we have. That team still lacks goals. We need someone on the right who can score goals and a real scorer upfront to compensate for the lacks of goals ozil and cazorla bring to the table. When all you have is one goal scorer. Then teams will figure you out easily. Thats why this team is the lowest goal scorers for arsenal in 20 years
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Re: Isco

Postby alexafc12 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 5:24 pm

Long up front with his work rate and sniper finishing and we're set
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Re: Isco

Postby yadunoe » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:25 pm

we gotta win the league this year cause once the summer roles around and pep can build his team somewhat i feel he went to city cause he likes their squad more then chelsea and united so he prob feels like he doesnt need too much investment we wont have a better chance for a while because we all know wenger will buy one player max in summer
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Re: Isco

Postby yadunoe » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:29 pm

gooney wrote:
elkanofan wrote:back on topic


Zenith wrote:
Arsenal~Fanatic wrote:Would walk in to our team and capable of hacking it from the word go. He has the strength and speed to deal with the premiership. Capable of playing in any of the three positions behind the Striker.

If Eriksen can hack it strength-wise, so can Ísco. Having said that, he's not quick at all. If Ísco is quick, Jack is rapid, which he isn't. Quick enough for an attacking mid, yes. Quick enough for a Premier League winger, whilst taking into consideration his other traits? No.

Ísco is a flair player, technically sublime, but he has some serious weaknesses that are being overlooked - Real Madrid fans (not the glory-hunting, petulant kind) and Spanish pundits almost unanimously agree on that. If you look a bit further than his touch and flicks, his actual contributions and efficiency leaves a lot to be desired. Often caught hanging on to the ball for far too long, ending up dispossessed, unable to spot runs and disappear whenever he plays on the wing and has to take care of his defensive duties.

What's crucial for an attacking midfielder is knowing when to pick a pass and when to hold on to the ball, Ísco struggles with that. He can still grow as a player, but hasn't done any of that in recent years. Yet we want to spend £35-45m on what will be our second choice CAM and make-shift winger (- and not a very good one at that)? Not saying we should be cheapskates but that's a huge chunk of money you can spend on a player that suits our needs more.

Ísco needs a free, but central role behind the striker to excell and grow as a player, playing him on the wing consistently is a crime and the only reason that's the case now at Real Madrid is because he can't get into the team ahead of James.



caz - coq

isco - ozil - alexis

whoever


That caz/ozil/isco triangle is fully capable f dominating games and controlling them which is something we are lacking right now. Walcott could work well upfront in this lineup.

Sims wrote:If Silva doesn't get over his injury problems he could go there?


thats the concern.

Thats no improvement on what we have. That team still lacks goals. We need someone on the right who can score goals and a real scorer upfront to compensate for the lacks of goals ozil and cazorla bring to the table. When all you have is one goal scorer. Then teams will figure you out easily. Thats why this team is the lowest goal scorers for arsenal in 20 years

thats why we need a top striker in the summer and we need super sanchez to fire in some goals plus walcott to chip in
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Re: Isco

Postby ESR10 » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:40 pm

James Rodriguez to Man United & Isco to Arsenal [Marca]

The two players facing the flak this Tuesday are midfielders James Rodriguez and Isco.

Both the Colombian and Spanish midfielders were yanked off the pitch during Saturday’s 1-0 home defeat to Atletico Madrid, and Marca believe that both players will be offloaded by Real Madrid this summer, unless they can turn around their fortunes in the final three months of the season.
Marca also offer possible outlets for the two Madrid men: James is linked to Manchester United, while Isco is in line for a move to Arsenal.

Marca’s article makes tough reading for the two players. Both are labelled as “transferable”, while they are said to “embody one of the main evils of Los Blancos: the lack of competitive characters and a winning mentality”.

Marca say United will need to pay 80 million euros for James, while Isco could cost Arsenal 45 million euros.
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Re: Isco

Postby Sims » Tue Mar 01, 2016 4:50 pm

must get
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Re: Isco

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:07 pm

Standard media reaction after Real loss, nothing to see here
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Re: Isco

Postby arsenalpan » Tue Mar 01, 2016 5:13 pm

Sims wrote:must get


Considering our current squad are full of shit, anyone mentioned on the first 3 pages of this forum should be a must get. But I doubt any of them would like to join us.
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Re: Isco

Postby gooney » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:07 pm

sco is a perfect Wenge player. Pretty, but an absolute bitch. He would suit us perfect
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Re: Isco

Postby TOP » Tue Mar 01, 2016 6:08 pm

None of Wengers recent purchases are pretty though, with the exception of Giroud
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Re: Isco

Postby Mike Dean » Wed Apr 06, 2016 8:42 pm

When RM let Ozil go, they thought Isco was going to replace him.

LOL @ that.

Just watched him against Wolfsburg. He was a horror show.

Holds on the the ball for far too long without going anywhere...makes wrong decisions with the ball...

Total team ball movement killer. Set nothing up for his forwards.

Just a dumb player.

Stay away from this DUD.
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Re: Isco

Postby yadunoe » Wed Apr 06, 2016 9:06 pm

Mike Dean wrote:When RM let Ozil go, they thought Isco was going to replace him.

LOL @ that.

Just watched him against Wolfsburg. He was a horror show.

Holds on the the ball for far too long without going anywhere...makes wrong decisions with the ball...

Total team ball movement killer. Set nothing up for his forwards.

Just a dumb player.

Stay away from this DUD.

real madrid are a collective mess rn dont know how they managed to beat barca but isco is good he was already a top player at malaga and he would combine well with santi here but hes not what we need
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