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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby Power n Glory » Sat May 14, 2022 12:54 pm

alexafc12 wrote:Not sure what relevance the Haaland price has. He has a buy out clause in his contract ...

€50m for Jesus seems excessive. What other club is going to / can pay that amount for him ?

We should be strong here. £30m is a decent price. Otherwise move onto new targets.

For as rich as City are are they really going to let a backup player run down their contract. Although I guess if FFP doesn't apply to them it doesn't matter much


The problem is finding someone else comparable for £30m that has a better record. I don't think there are any cheap Premier League options and looking outside the Prem, we'll need someone that can adapt quickly.
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby swipe right » Sat May 14, 2022 3:29 pm

Jesus would be a fantastic signing. Technically gifted, good link up player, scores goals, experienced in the premier league and still very young. He’ll only get better. Question is whether he comes without champions league football.
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby alexafc12 » Sat May 14, 2022 7:12 pm

Power n Glory wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:Not sure what relevance the Haaland price has. He has a buy out clause in his contract ...

€50m for Jesus seems excessive. What other club is going to / can pay that amount for him ?

We should be strong here. £30m is a decent price. Otherwise move onto new targets.

For as rich as City are are they really going to let a backup player run down their contract. Although I guess if FFP doesn't apply to them it doesn't matter much


The problem is finding someone else comparable for £30m that has a better record. I don't think there are any cheap Premier League options and looking outside the Prem, we'll need someone that can adapt quickly.


True.

I just feel though when a club is looking to get rid of a player and at the same time that player has 1 year left on his deal, and, isn't going to be on the radar of most top top clubs ... Then they can't demand a premium.

What clubs can afford 50m, would guarantee him a starting spot / European football and would be in for him ?

His agent said 6 big clubs but that could just be engineering him a move.

Chelsea - no
Bayern - Lewa replacement ?
Juve - no
Barca - no
Madrid - no
Inter - no
Dortmund - no
Atlético - no
PSG - Mbappe replacement ?
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby alexafc12 » Sat May 14, 2022 7:14 pm

Maybe Newcastle could tempt him ... ?
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby Dejan » Sat May 14, 2022 7:21 pm

I was stoked seeing us heavily linked with him because I thought he was really really good ( I barely watch football nowadays)

...then I looked up his statistics
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby Power n Glory » Sat May 14, 2022 8:36 pm

alexafc12 wrote:
Power n Glory wrote:
alexafc12 wrote:Not sure what relevance the Haaland price has. He has a buy out clause in his contract ...

€50m for Jesus seems excessive. What other club is going to / can pay that amount for him ?

We should be strong here. £30m is a decent price. Otherwise move onto new targets.

For as rich as City are are they really going to let a backup player run down their contract. Although I guess if FFP doesn't apply to them it doesn't matter much


The problem is finding someone else comparable for £30m that has a better record. I don't think there are any cheap Premier League options and looking outside the Prem, we'll need someone that can adapt quickly.


True.

I just feel though when a club is looking to get rid of a player and at the same time that player has 1 year left on his deal, and, isn't going to be on the radar of most top top clubs ... Then they can't demand a premium.

What clubs can afford 50m, would guarantee him a starting spot / European football and would be in for him ?

His agent said 6 big clubs but that could just be engineering him a move.

Chelsea - no
Bayern - Lewa replacement ?
Juve - no
Barca - no
Madrid - no
Inter - no
Dortmund - no
Atlético - no
PSG - Mbappe replacement ?


I'm not really worried about the fee. £50m is cheap in today's market and it's rare to find a striker that can tick all the boxes we need. Pace, technical, can drop deep, can press with aggression, can pass....we're asking for a lot and the strikers of today are limited. We'd either have to unearth a complete gem nobody knows about or try to convert a winger into a striker, which is sort of what Jesus is. We don't really know his full potential when played for a full season as a striker.

If he's Arteta's first choice, we should make him a priority. Leave no excuses or room for error. Get him the players he wants and see if that unlocks our attack.
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby Ach » Sat May 14, 2022 9:21 pm



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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby TedLasso » Sat May 14, 2022 10:46 pm

Why not spend 80m on Nunez and sign Jesus for free in a year?
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby FrustratedGooner » Sun May 15, 2022 6:13 am

I would not mind him as a backup striker to someone else.

Ideally we get 2 strikers someone who does not have prem experience and Jesus for example that does.

That would allow the other striker to bed into the prem and no immense pressure from the off whilst Jesus for example in theory be able to play first choice temporarily. Obviously 50-60 million on Jesus is excessive and does not really fit into the above scenario.
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby Salibatelli » Sun May 15, 2022 10:26 am

For the money being talked about would prefer someone like Martinez of Inter, this is just too much for Jesus a player who hasn’t been that great at City.

Nunez would be a good option if more expensive.
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby EliteKiller » Sun May 15, 2022 11:00 am

The issue with Jesus, and presumably why Pep will let him go to another EPL club, is his conversion rate. He has a conversion rate of 14.21% this season, that compares to Sterling 23% ..... Liverpool's front two Firmino 21% Orig 30% .... Kane is at 13% (but playing deeper) ... Vardy 26%

Midfield/Strikers Son 27%, Salah 17%

So playing for the team that creates the most big scoring chances in the EPL his conversion rate is not great, will he thrive at a club which creates far less scoring chances?
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby Reiss » Sun May 15, 2022 11:17 am

Pep has played him on the wing and has never set the system up to be based around Jesus. It's been based around KDB.

I think if he came here where he'd be the focal point and the system would be set up around him he'd do well.
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby Salibatelli » Sun May 15, 2022 12:17 pm

Doesn’t change the conversion rate, that’s about getting a chance and putting it away.

I don’t think anyone has been overly impressed by him since he’s been at City, when they had Aguero he was fine as a bit part backup, but as a first teamer he’s not up to scratch.

If you can’t score a hatful of goals as a forward playing for City there’s an issue, even Mahrez who isn’t an out and out forward has scored 23 goals or so.
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby Reiss » Sun May 15, 2022 12:25 pm

You can moan plenty about him next season :)
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Re: Gabriel Jesus

Postby Salibatelli » Sun May 15, 2022 1:01 pm

Hopefully he won’t be with us if common sense prevails.
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