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Re: Ben White

Postby EliteKiller » Mon Jun 14, 2021 4:38 am

aniym wrote:
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EliteKiller wrote:More logic to this transfer than many - a young EPL experienced, home-grown, CB - those players are pretty rare and will attract >40m for many years to come (just look at slabhead) provided they remain decent squad players ... Ben White may not be a world beater but he's a good squad investment.


Since when do we spend £40m+ on squad players?


If we have any ambition at all of ever getting back to top four that's the going rate - just look at our rivals's benches if you don't get that. A top EPL squad is worth nearly a billion euros that's an average 40m per player - ours is worth 550m it's why we're eighth best.


If Ben White was Top 4 worthy, a Top 4 team would be all over him. Liverpool went with Konate and they're desperate for CBs.

Whereas for us, it's not a priority position at all, because defense has been one of Arteta's biggest improvements.


Man City had the best defence in the EPL and still spent 68m on Dias .... you stand still you lose.
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Re: Ben White

Postby Arsenal Tone » Mon Jun 14, 2021 6:30 am

Sign a DM like Bissouma to play next to Partey ffs
Raya/Ramsdale
White/Tomiyasu--Saliba/Timber--Gabriel/Kiwior--???/Zinchenko
???/Jorginho
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Re: Ben White

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Mon Jun 14, 2021 2:46 pm

EliteKiller wrote:
aniym wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:
aniym wrote:
EliteKiller wrote:More logic to this transfer than many - a young EPL experienced, home-grown, CB - those players are pretty rare and will attract >40m for many years to come (just look at slabhead) provided they remain decent squad players ... Ben White may not be a world beater but he's a good squad investment.


Since when do we spend £40m+ on squad players?


If we have any ambition at all of ever getting back to top four that's the going rate - just look at our rivals's benches if you don't get that. A top EPL squad is worth nearly a billion euros that's an average 40m per player - ours is worth 550m it's why we're eighth best.


If Ben White was Top 4 worthy, a Top 4 team would be all over him. Liverpool went with Konate and they're desperate for CBs.

Whereas for us, it's not a priority position at all, because defense has been one of Arteta's biggest improvements.


Man City had the best defence in the EPL and still spent 68m on Dias .... you stand still you lose.


One was a starter for Benfica in the CL and Portugal NT, the other....is a CB in a bottom half half PL team, who you yourself said wouldn't be a starter here.

Thanks for making my point.
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Re: Ben White

Postby Highbury Hillbilly » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:11 pm

I was hoping this would be a rumour, but it seems we're serious.

Absolutely shocking. £40m bid on a CB, with nobody lined up for CAM, RB, LB or CF.

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Re: Ben White

Postby Santi » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:13 pm

Good statement of intent that we want to buy a young HG player who’s proven in this league. Knew they wouldn’t accept 40m since they turned it down last year and he had a good season, hopefully won’t take more than 50m.
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Re: Ben White

Postby CrimsonGunner11 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:15 pm

We need a CB IMO but not at the expense of a DM. Hope White is as good as his price tag suggests
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(Turner/Hein)
White Saliba Gabriel Zinchenko
(Tomiyasu/Niles) (Timber/Holding) (Trusty/Kiwior) (Tierney/Tavares)
Odegaard(c) —- Rice
(Xhaka/Lokonga) —- (Partey/Elneny)
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Saka Jesus Martinelli
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Re: Ben White

Postby Paddy » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:29 pm

so we didnt pay the money for buendia, who is a link up player and defence splitter, which is exactly what we need, but we're willing to pay 40m for a defender when we had one of the best defences in the league last season.

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Re: Ben White

Postby KG3 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:36 pm

What’s this nonsense, what are wasting money on more centre backs we already have too many Saliba, Gabriel, Chambers, Holding, Mavropanos, Mari

We invested a decent amount into Saliba and Gabriel so let’s develop those two, bring in a cheap experienced centre back to replace luiz.

Then sell at least two of Chambers, Holding Mavropanos to raise funds

It’s time we start doing things the Arsenal way and develop our own players, we spend all this money on this white guy and he ends up like another version of Chambers/Holding we are just setting ourselves back a few years again
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Re: Ben White

Postby Power n Glory » Wed Jun 16, 2021 3:43 pm

Club have lost the plot. This isn't a priority. We can barely manage a shot on goal.
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Re: Ben White

Postby Santi » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:00 pm

KG3 wrote:What’s this nonsense, what are wasting money on more centre backs we already have too many Saliba, Gabriel, Chambers, Holding, Mavropanos, Mari

We invested a decent amount into Saliba and Gabriel so let’s develop those two, bring in a cheap experienced centre back to replace luiz.

Then sell at least two of Chambers, Holding Mavropanos to raise funds

It’s time we start doing things the Arsenal way and develop our own players, we spend all this money on this white guy and he ends up like another version of Chambers/Holding we are just setting ourselves back a few years again



Too many doesnt = quality.

Tbh all our centre backs bar Gabriel are trash and this would be a huge upgrade. We lost your boy Luiz and need a solid RCB so I have no problem with the deal.

Do think a CM is higher priority but happy if we get this done.
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Re: Ben White

Postby Paddy » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:06 pm

saliba and mavropanos are not trash, the manager just doesnt like them.

thats on him.
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Re: Ben White

Postby Santi » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:08 pm

Saliba might not be but he can still be used even if we sign Ben white, there’s no guarantee Saliba will do well here though.

Mavropanos seems to be getting hugely overrated now and I’m not sure why. He had 1 good game here before getting a red card in that game, Wenger Emery and Arteta all deemed him not good enough so at best he’d be a backup...which we don’t need more of.
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Re: Ben White

Postby KG3 » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:08 pm

Santi wrote:
KG3 wrote:What’s this nonsense, what are wasting money on more centre backs we already have too many Saliba, Gabriel, Chambers, Holding, Mavropanos, Mari

We invested a decent amount into Saliba and Gabriel so let’s develop those two, bring in a cheap experienced centre back to replace luiz.

Then sell at least two of Chambers, Holding Mavropanos to raise funds

It’s time we start doing things the Arsenal way and develop our own players, we spend all this money on this white guy and he ends up like another version of Chambers/Holding we are just setting ourselves back a few years again



Too many doesnt = quality.

Tbh all our centre backs bar Gabriel are trash and this would be a huge upgrade. We lost your boy Luiz and need a solid RCB so I have no problem with the deal.

Do think a CM is higher priority but happy if we get this done.


Paddy wrote:saliba and mavropanos are not trash, the manager just doesnt like them.

thats on him.


What paddy said

Also to add Chambers is actually a good backup center back and versatile + HG, deffo worth keeping
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Re: Ben White

Postby Santi » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:09 pm

Once again having lots of cbs doesn’t = quality.


At this point, Gabriel is hardly even good enough to be a starter for a team so desperate to get into the top 4. As I said, Ben White would be a big upgrade so I really don’t care what crap we have already filling the backup spots, White would take Luiz’s spot.
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Re: Ben White

Postby Goonerred » Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:29 pm

It seems a lot of money for him, I haven't seen him play much though.
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