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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby Ach » Tue Jan 15, 2019 4:31 am

Shearer is better than Henry
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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby EliteKiller » Tue Jan 15, 2019 5:12 am

Va-Va-Voom wrote: Of course he did it longer, that's why I said peak RVP > peak Henry.

In terms of consistency no other striker in PL history comes close to Henry.

He was here for 8 seasons and won 4 Golden Boots, 50% Golden Boot ratio is absurd.

Just to put it in perspective, Aguero, who many now regard as one of the all time great PL strikers is in his 8th season with City but only has one Golden Boot so far.


Hmmmm - Think you've got the tinted Arsenal glasses on again ....

Alan Shearer - 16 seasons three clubs - 379 goals - 3 Golden Boots
Most goals in Premier League history: 260 goals
Most Premier League goals in a 42-game season: 34
Most Premier League hat-tricks: 11
Most Premier League penalties scored: 56
Most Premier League goals scored from inside the box: 227
Most Premier League goals in a single match: 5

and as for consistency - Henry managed 5 EPL seasons with 20 plus goals - Kane is on his fifth 20+ season already and he's only 25 .... Henry didn't reach that landmark until he was thirty ...

Henry was a feckin' magician but for consistency Shearer, and probably in time Kane will end up with all the records ....
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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby LMAO » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:04 am

Simeone's managerial career is more impressive than Pep's.
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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:09 am

EliteKiller wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote: Of course he did it longer, that's why I said peak RVP > peak Henry.

In terms of consistency no other striker in PL history comes close to Henry.

He was here for 8 seasons and won 4 Golden Boots, 50% Golden Boot ratio is absurd.

Just to put it in perspective, Aguero, who many now regard as one of the all time great PL strikers is in his 8th season with City but only has one Golden Boot so far.


Hmmmm - Think you've got the tinted Arsenal glasses on again ....

Alan Shearer - 16 seasons three clubs - 379 goals - 3 Golden Boots
Most goals in Premier League history: 260 goals
Most Premier League goals in a 42-game season: 34
Most Premier League hat-tricks: 11
Most Premier League penalties scored: 56
Most Premier League goals scored from inside the box: 227
Most Premier League goals in a single match: 5

and as for consistency - Henry managed 5 EPL seasons with 20 plus goals - Kane is on his fifth 20+ season already and he's only 25 .... Henry didn't reach that landmark until he was thirty ...

Henry was a feckin' magician but for consistency Shearer, and probably in time Kane will end up with all the records ....


In what regards is Shearer more consistent?

He played double the seasons and got 3 Golden Boots to Henry's 4.

Henry's goal per minute ratio is also far superior, Shearer is not even in the top 10.

Of course he has more goals because he played twice the amount of seasons as Henry.

The only thing he has over Henry is goals in a season, everything else is down to the amount of games he played.

Btw it took Shearer 7 seasons to score over 20 goals in a league Season, it took Henry 3.

Shearer also had multiple seasons where he failed to hit double digits in a league season, Henry never did.

All the stats you posted prove Henry was more consistent, don't even know why you tried to make this argument.

Henry could also do far more as a footballer overall, as Sims mentioned earlier he has the assist record in PL history and he's a striker.
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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby Zenith » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:32 am

If you're solely going by statistics as barometer to measure who was the more consistent player, then at least be more thorough and add assists to the equation.

Alan Shearer
    Apps
      421
    Goals
      260
    Goal Ratio
      0.590 - INFERIOR
    Assists
      62
    Assist Ratio
      0.145 - INFERIOR
    Productivity
      322 in 421
    Ratio
      0.764 - INFERIOR

Thierry Henry
    Apps
      258
    Goals
      175
    Goal Ratio
      0.680 - SUPERIOR
    Assists
      74
    Assist Ratio
      0.286 - SUPERIOR (twice as good)
    Productivity
      249 in 258
    Ratio
      0.965 - SUPERIOR

More consistent? Yeah, no.
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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue Jan 15, 2019 6:38 am

Henry wins by every measurable metric ffs

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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby EliteKiller » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:16 am

Selective statistics can prove anything .... what a surprise ... either you compare players on an equal basis or what's the point?

Henry - 792 games 360 goals
Shearer - 734 games 379 goals

So Shearer was somehow less consistent even though he scored more goals in less games? and he did it for more EPL seasons as well .... hmmmm

How about if you want to compare EPL players over goals per games played -

As off 4th January 2019 - https://www.premierleague.com/stats

Kane - A goal every 0.7 games
Aguero - A goal every .69 games
Henry - A goal every .68 games

So two players score more often but they are less consistent? go figure?

If you think these numbers are wrong, or you just want to pick the best few years of a players career ... then you're not really comparing like for like are you?
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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby Angelito » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:20 am

Marsbar100 wrote:Xavi is as good as zidane


Not unpopular with me. Zidane is a tad overrated because of his two unreal performances in the WC and UCL finals. Then, there's the Brazil game in 2006 that he bossed.

Zidane is one of greatest big game players in football history. But he wasn't as consistent as Xavi. Xavi is the greatest CM I've watched. Man dictated the game like no one I've ever seen.

But it's comparing apples and oranges really. Zidane was a CAM and Xavi a CM/DLP.

Zidane and Iniesta would be a more apt comparison and I'd say Iniesta > Zidane. :hiding:
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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:25 am

EliteKiller wrote:Selective statistics can prove anything .... what a surprise ... either you compare players on an equal basis or what's the point?

Henry - 792 games 360 goals
Shearer - 734 games 379 goals

So Shearer was somehow less consistent even though he scored more goals in less games? and he did it for more EPL seasons as well .... hmmmm



Moving the goalposts.

I specifically said in PL history.

Henry was more consistent than Shearer in the PL.
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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby Dejan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:31 am

Va-Va-Voom wrote:Peak Van Persie > Peak Henry

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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:32 am

Dejan wrote:
Va-Va-Voom wrote:Peak Van Persie > Peak Henry

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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby Dejan » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:35 am

Van persie is a c***
Probably wears gucci too


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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:42 am

Dejan wrote:Van persie is a c***
Probably wears gucci too


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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby Ach » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:48 am

Lol shearer did it for Newcastle and Blackburn.

Lot of arsenal bias here which is understandable
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Re: The Unpopular Opinion Thread

Postby Zenith » Tue Jan 15, 2019 7:57 am

Ach wrote:Lol shearer did it for Newcastle and Blackburn.

Lot of arsenal bias here which is understandable

You've missed the point, let me help you out.
Zenith wrote:If we're solely going by statistics as barometer to measure who was the more consistent player, then at least be more thorough and add assists to the equation.
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