by Arsene Nose » Mon Jun 05, 2017 3:59 pm
by CrimsonGunner11 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 4:25 pm
Cripps wrote:Cheick Tiote has passed away after collapsing in training
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40163322
wow
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by Gooner_ESR10 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:03 pm
GoonerAlexis wrote:Inna Lillahi Wa Inna Ilayhi Rajioon
May ALLAH grant him Jannah.
by Angelito » Mon Jun 05, 2017 5:19 pm
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by Cripps » Tue Jun 06, 2017 6:40 pm
Meanwhile, Beijing head coach Gao Hongbo has revealed the club has seen a request to postpone their next fixture rejected by opponents Meizhou Hakka.
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by LMAO » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:00 am
elkanofan wrote:Brandon wrote:The Chinese Super League isn't going to overtake the major European leagues any time soon. Forget about the players in the very highest tiers (Messi, Ronaldo, Suarez, Neymar, Bale, Modric, Busquets, Bonucci, Neuer, etc.), until the Chinese Super League can attract players of the caliber like Di Maria, Dybala, Isco, Khedira, Howedes, and Leno in their primes, then it will never be on the same level as the top European leagues and instead be a glorified MLS.
Brandon, they are a year away from that already. You exactly the person who falls into this category of someone who knows the premier league and champions league but dosen't really look into the other leagues bar the top teams.
Look at a side like Deportivo for example. They have spent i think 2 million euros in the last 3 years and rely heavily on loans just to survive and free transfers. Deportivo are a midtable/lower relegation side in La Liga, and the story with teams like Granada, Osasuna and most of the midtable and lower reaches of Spanish football.
Italy, France, Portugal, Holland are the exact same story, even some of the second tier clubs are relying on loans and handouts, yet this is supposed to compete with a league where every team can pay you 200-400k a week if it deems you a superstar?
Apart from the premier league Europe has no answer to china right now! There top tier superclubs in Barcelona, Real Madrid, Bayern Munich, PSG, Juventus along with the Premier leagues super teams which is us, United, City, Chelsea
under that you have Dortmund, Inter, AC Milan, Atletico, Liverpool, Spurs, Roma, Galatasaray & Valencia if they sort themselves out
Then after than, including some sleeping second tier clubs like Marseille there is nothing but feeder clubs! Players are full on mercenaries these days, who make a reputation somewhere in view to go to Barca or Real, if they cant make it there they will look for another big club or just head to china, this is right now! Nobody wants to go to play for a team in the position which Deportivo are in, or a side like Levante who sometimes don't even pay their players due to the debts they have.
If more people looked at the financial apocalypse facing european footballs smaller clubs, you will see this CSL league becoming a major force is inevitable and will reshape football as we know it. Nice, Montpeiller, Lorient, Twente, Deportivo, Malaga, Eibar, Pescara, Sassuolo, Braga, none of these sides and others like them, you can put all their financial power together and it wouldn't come near one CSL team!
elkanofan wrote:Brandon wrote:Cripps wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/38524429
Well that's that then
"In December, Cristiano Ronaldo's agent Jorge Mendes claimed the player was offered an £85m annual salary after an unnamed Chinese club approached Real Madrid with a £250m bid."
As I've said, no superstar in his prime is moving to China any time soon—money or not—because China sucks to live in if you come from a developed country upbringing.
Now, maybe people can stop crying that the sky is falling and enjoy the hegemony of European league football for the foreseeable future.
No because you don't see the apocalyptic issues happening in every european league financially bar the Premier League.
Even if China caps its spending it shit can fund wages that 15 la Liga clubs put together couldn't, so on with Serie A, Ligue 1, etc...
Cristino is 32 in February, there is no need for him to go there he has enough money as it is. The fear rightfully is about the next 5 years and the 'next' great superstars, the next generation of players which coincidentally coincides with football in general is going through a very piss poor generation of young players. Not one player under the age of 21 is world class or even near a world class level. This is creating a huge pool of players around the same level who all have a finite number of destinations at a handful of superclubs who can pay them the premium wages to supplement them if they reach a world class level.
China may suck to live in for a common man but for a football player especially if your brazilian it dosen't:
Look at a guy like Ricardo Goulart who could easily be playing for a team like Sevilla, Villarreal, Celta, Lazio but hes in China. Oscar's move is gigantic and scary statement for European football because guys like Oscar who weren't getting playing time at Chelsea and had little to no options to move to a similarly ranked big team and get playing time will go to China over a Villarreal, Celta, Real Sociedad, Everton, Lazio, Lyon. Established players like Oscar do not see these clubs as 'prestigious' its all about money to them!
China can comfortably now buy 20 players on Oscars level! have 4 players at Oscars level at each and every Chinese Super League team plus one top asian players That alone will bring the leagues competitiveness and quality level as a whole higher than Ligue 1, Eredivisie and, Portuguese League. These leagues have 2-4 good teams then the rest of them are shit, feeder club, village teams going nowhere. Compare teams like Bastia, Maritimo and Sparta Rotterdam that to a big bucks league in china where you know that every team has potential to give you a game and has their own thing going on.
This Chinese takeover is happening due to European superpowers greed. China has a league setup which is designed to be competitive for all teams to have gigantic funding. This is inevitable, it will take time and China has already made many mistakes and will do so in the future but this league becoming a force is inevitable, europe needs to get its head out of its ass an be ready for whats coming.
The true fear is if these 12-16 yer olds come into the super league and can actually match the quality of players like Oscar, remember before China have never had a serious structure an setup to develop footballers before. Now they are drilling their young players to become superstars.
Realistically in the next 5 years just need to get to at least Japan's level and then all hell will break lose, Japan improved massively from when Wenger/Zico especially went there in the early 90's to after their world cup, producing guys like Nakata, Ono and Endo. Just imagine a country with so many people churning out player after player! Its scary!
by ESR10 » Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:30 am