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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Sun Jun 07, 2015 2:16 am

Yorkyblue wrote:For me, Qatar have every right to host one. Just not the way this has all turned out.


They would have every right had they not violated human rights by employing slavery.

Many of the workers have died due to the work (slave) conditions.

No way should they be allowed to host, it would be an affront to the world.

But money talks and in this case has spoken so they probably will.
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby LMAO » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:15 am

Yorkyblue wrote:Why do some many people say the Yanks should have it after just hosting it?

Guessing they must be yanks saying it?


1. Money talks with FIFA, and the US has plenty of it. We'd absolutely smash any revenue and profit records for the World Cup.

2. Even though there have been five World Cups since, we still hold the attendance record for any World Cup, and 2026 will make that number look paltry in comparison. No other country can hold a candle to the US when it comes to the sheer amount of world class stadiums and capacity.

3. We're on our way to becoming a football powerhouse (before every laughs--I never said we were currently one). 2026 will be our arrival on the world stage as a top team. What better country to have that happen in than your own? 1994 established football in this country. 2026 will solidify it. Football following numbers are exploding here.

4. We could comfortably host the World Cup next week if that scenario presented itself--as in the infrastructure is already there. By 2022, there will be high speed railways connecting the major cities of the Northeast corridor (i.e., Boston, NYC, Philly, DC), in Florida, in California, and in Texas. That creates ease of travel for people that can't drive, that don't want to get on planes each time for a city that's only a couple hundred miles away, or that don't want to travel on the existing 'slow' trains. But even without the high speed railways, we already have the necessary infrastructure to host events the size of the World Cup.

5. 32 years is not "just hosting it". Yeah, 2026 will mark 60 years since England hosted it, but that still doesn't take away the fact that 32 years is also more than a generation of people. ffs, Mexico hosted it a second time only 16 years after their first.

6. It's a World Cup. What nation can lay claim to a more diverse population than the US?

7. The most important reason: I wasn't even 1 yet when we last had the World Cup. It'll be nice not having to worry about visas and other shit that comes with traveling to other countries :)
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby Yorkyblue » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:54 am

I don't agree with any of that for being a reason to get one before the likes of England.
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Sun Jun 07, 2015 6:58 am

Give Ingerland 2022 and 'Merica 2026. The soviets keep 2018.
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby LMAO » Sun Jun 07, 2015 7:40 pm

Yorkyblue wrote:I don't agree with any of that for being a reason to get one before the likes of England.


Going by that logic: Sweden, Switzerland, Chile, and Uruguay should all get World Cups before England. :dontknow:
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby Cripps » Sun Jun 07, 2015 8:18 pm

None of them would be able to hold a tournament this big anymore. We can.
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby starmandb » Sun Jun 07, 2015 9:55 pm

Brandon wrote:
Yorkyblue wrote:Why do some many people say the Yanks should have it after just hosting it?

Guessing they must be yanks saying it?


1. Money talks with FIFA, and the US has plenty of it. We'd absolutely smash any revenue and profit records for the World Cup.

2. Even though there have been five World Cups since, we still hold the attendance record for any World Cup, and 2026 will make that number look paltry in comparison. No other country can hold a candle to the US when it comes to the sheer amount of world class stadiums and capacity.

3. We're on our way to becoming a football powerhouse (before every laughs--I never said we were currently one). 2026 will be our arrival on the world stage as a top team. What better country to have that happen in than your own? 1994 established football in this country. 2026 will solidify it. Football following numbers are exploding here.

4. We could comfortably host the World Cup next week if that scenario presented itself--as in the infrastructure is already there. By 2022, there will be high speed railways connecting the major cities of the Northeast corridor (i.e., Boston, NYC, Philly, DC), in Florida, in California, and in Texas. That creates ease of travel for people that can't drive, that don't want to get on planes each time for a city that's only a couple hundred miles away, or that don't want to travel on the existing 'slow' trains. But even without the high speed railways, we already have the necessary infrastructure to host events the size of the World Cup.

5. 32 years is not "just hosting it". Yeah, 2026 will mark 60 years since England hosted it, but that still doesn't take away the fact that 32 years is also more than a generation of people. ffs, Mexico hosted it a second time only 16 years after their first.

6. It's a World Cup. What nation can lay claim to a more diverse population than the US?

7. The most important reason: I wasn't even 1 yet when we last had the World Cup. It'll be nice not having to worry about visas and other shit that comes with traveling to other countries :)

Colombia won the right to host the 1986 World Cup in 1974 but pulled out for economic reasons in 1982
There was a bid by Canada usa and mexico in 1983 which mexico won
Usa were awarded the 1994 world cup
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby Zedie » Sun Jun 07, 2015 10:53 pm

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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby Cripps » Sun Jun 07, 2015 11:12 pm

Take the 2018 one off Russia.
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby Va-Va-Voom » Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:00 am

Cripps wrote:Take the 2018 one off Russia.


Try that and see if there aren't nuclear consequences.
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby elkanofan » Mon Jun 08, 2015 5:45 am

Seems almost inevitable the 2022 world cup will be stripped fromQatar, lots of hype on the Worker death toll. This is a good thing!

Russia needs to keep their world cup though, seriously its World War 3 if the lose it! Putin ain't gonna let the United States and the FBI take his World Cup away for nothing.

England can forget about a World Cup anytime soon, nobody in FIFA likes them to vote for them.
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby GoonerAlexandre » Mon Jun 08, 2015 6:17 am

elkanofan wrote:Seems almost inevitable the 2022 world cup will be stripped fromQatar, lots of hype on the Worker death toll. This is a good thing!


Poor workers, it doesn't work out for them either way. Expect Qatar to deport them, or to make them work on other, just as dangerous projects, as revenge.

The only Gulf country with actual labour laws is the UAE. If they wanted it in the Gulf, it would be the best spot.
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby Royal Gooner » Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:33 am

elkanofan wrote:Seems almost inevitable the 2022 world cup will be stripped fromQatar, lots of hype on the Worker death toll. This is a good thing!

Russia needs to keep their world cup though, seriously its World War 3 if the lose it! Putin ain't gonna let the United States and the FBI take his World Cup away for nothing.

England can forget about a World Cup anytime soon, nobody in FIFA likes them to vote for them.


So we invent the game they love, and this is how they repay us? IFAB should never have given so much voting power to FIFA.
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby Angelito » Mon Jun 08, 2015 9:07 am

elkanofan wrote:Seems almost inevitable the 2022 world cup will be stripped fromQatar, lots of hype on the Worker death toll. This is a good thing!

Russia needs to keep their world cup though, seriously its World War 3 if the lose it! Putin ain't gonna let the United States and the FBI take his World Cup away for nothing.

England can forget about a World Cup anytime soon, nobody in FIFA likes them to vote for them.


FIFA officials have stated that if bribery is proven in both cases, they will be stripped. I can see that happening in the case of Qatar, but not in the case of Russia. It's too risky and repercussions would be nasty. This is a Super Power we're talking about.

2018 stays in Russia because they can manage it and they can deliver a great World Cup. 2022 must move, unless the workers are paid adequate wages, and Qatar can build air conditioned stadiums. And that is a mighty task in itself...
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Re: 2018 and 2022 World Cups

Postby Luzh 22 » Mon Jun 08, 2015 4:07 pm

Lol! Do people seriously think Russia would start WW3/nuclear war over losing the right to host the world cup?
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