Richest Football Clubs

[LMAO]

With lists coming out (Forbes) detailing the top ten richest football clubs, there has been some confusion as to what the list is actually ranking. Forbes' list means what a club's market value is (i.e., the blue book price you'd have to pay to own a club 100%).

Forbes' list:
1. Real Madrid (Spain)
2. Barcelona (Spain)
3. Manchester United (England)
4. Bayern Munich (Germany)
5. Arsenal (England)
6. Chelsea (England)
7. Manchester City (England)
8. AC Milan (Italy)
9. Juventus (Italy)
10. Liverpool (England)

However,
if it was actual richest in terms of club wealth (i.e., owners plus savings and revenue, not including debt), the list would look something more like:
1. Manchester City (England)
2. Paris Saint-Germain (France)
3. Zenit St. Petersburg (Russia)
4. Deportivo La Coruna (Spain)
5. Club Pachuca (Mexico) / Club Leon (Mexico) / Real Oviedo (Spain)
8. Arsenal (England)
9. Manchester United (England)
10. Queens Park Rangers (England)
11. Shakhtar Donetsk (Ukraine)
12. Seattle Sounders (United States)
13. Rennes (France)
14. Valerenga (Norway)
15. Los Angeles Galaxy (United States)

Chelsea--with Abramovich--fails to crack even the top fifteen (they're the third 'richest' club in London), though they'd be sixteenth if the list were to continue. Even with their very impressive revenues, Real Madrid, Barcelona, and Bayern Munich fail to come anywhere close to the top ten as their respective revenues aren't enough to overcome the value of the club owners. Liverpool look like mere peasants. Juventus and AC Milan aren't even in the same universe of wealth; Inter would be the richest club in Italy.

Just thought I'd try to clear this up. However, we still remain in the top ten, so money should be no excuse for us failing to spend while complying with FFP.

[Sims]

We could spend 200m in one window and be well within FFP. But obviously that would make no sense to do

[Zedie]

Interesting how things change when you put in different parameters.

In Arsenal's case however, its a shame it doesnt take into account the number of billionaires each club has that are willing (or in usmanov's case) able to spend it.

We've got 2 billionaires worth £15 billion give or take and not one penny of their own money spent on transfers in the time they've been connected to the club.

Someone show me a table that takes that into account. Ie the amount of money each owner has put into their club over a 10 year period or something.

Mike Ashley ccomfortably mugs off out lot ffs.

[LMAO]

Someone show me a table that takes that into account. Ie the amount of money each owner has put into their club over a 10 year period or something.

Will try to do this tomorrow when I get back from the gym. But it's so interesting to think, "What if?"

Like if Deportivo's owner (Amancio Ortega Gaona, net worth of $60b) had continued the bankrolling of the club that happened when they were in the upper echelons of Spanish and European football of the early 2000s, we'd be talking about Deportivo the same way we do Real and Barca.

Same for Rennes. If Francois Pinualt (net worth of $14.4b) had given more of a shit about building Rennes into a French and European powerhouse, we may never be discussing PSG.

Another one is QPR. If Lakshmi Mittal (net worth of $12.4b) had poured more of his wealth into the club, we'd perhaps be talking about QPR as one of England's biggest clubs instead of Manchester City because the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority may not have seen Man City as a worthwhile takeover in 2008. Shoot, they may have gone to an Italian club and we'd be discussing Roma, Sampdoria, or Torino instead of Man City.

[Angelito]

We could spend 200m in one window and be well within FFP. But obviously that would make no sense to do

If we make it to the CL KO stages next season - we'd have earned £40m again.

Just spend £25m on Schneiderlin, £35m on Hummels, and £25m on Lacazette.

Total = £85m - And our CL revenue would have paid half of it.

[Zedie]

Someone show me a table that takes that into account. Ie the amount of money each owner has put into their club over a 10 year period or something.

Will try to do this tomorrow when I get back from the gym. But it's so interesting to think, "What if?"

Like if Deportivo's owner (Amancio Ortega Gaona, net worth of $60b) had continued the bankrolling of the club that happened when they were in the upper echelons of Spanish and European football of the early 2000s, we'd be talking about Deportivo the same way we do Real and Barca.

Same for Rennes. If Francois Pinualt (net worth of $14.4b) had given more of a shit about building Rennes into a French and European powerhouse, we may never be discussing PSG.

Another one is QPR. If Lakshmi Mittal (net worth of $12.4b) had poured more of his wealth into the club, we'd perhaps be talking about QPR as one of England's biggest clubs instead of Manchester City because the Abu Dhabi Investment Authority may not have seen Man City as a worthwhile takeover in 2008. Shoot, they may have gone to an Italian club and we'd be discussing Roma, Sampdoria, or Torino instead of Man City.

Found it weird being in the Otamendi thread and finding out that Valencia now have massive money.

Every sentence with Valencia used to be about what player they would have to sell just to stay alive etc.

[JordanTheGunner]

We could spend 200m in one window and be well within FFP. But obviously that would make no sense to do

If we make it to the CL KO stages next season - we'd have earned £40m again.

Just spend £25m on Schneiderlin, £35m on Hummels, and £25m on Lacazette.

Total = £85m - And our CL revenue would have paid half of it.

Always comes down to the board ffs

[Pudpop]

We could spend 200m in one window and be well within FFP. But obviously that would make no sense to do

If we make it to the CL KO stages next season - we'd have earned £40m again.

Just spend £25m on Schneiderlin, £35m on Hummels, and £25m on Lacazette.

Total = £85m - And our CL revenue would have paid half of it.

Always comes down to the board ffs

Pretty sure we spent more money in the summer than what Angelito posted? No reason we couldn't get that again