Aaron Ramsey

[Est83]

Massa, no way is Ramsey`s vision better than Wilshere. He improved massively toward the end of last season, but that was more in maturity, positioning, game reading etc. His vision and direct passing has always lacked.

[Diaby24AFC]

Massa, no way is Ramsey`s vision better than Wilshere. He improved massively toward the end of last season, but that was more in maturity, positioning, game reading etc. His vision and direct passing has always lacked.

Do you know whose vision is better than both of theirs? Hint: it's not Rosicky or Cazorla.

[DiamondGooner]

Reading back over the last few pages I have to admit, I hated Ramsey for a looong time, didn't think he had good enough control, he used to pass the ball into the stands (Milan game e.g), run into nowhere and was never a CAM hence why Rosicky came and rescued us when he took back that position season before last ......... however.

Ramsey is being sold short here, at the moment he is AHEAD of Wilshere in the team, don't let the bias for little Jack fool you, Ramsey would of been man of the match 4-5 times toward the end of the season, it was only some master classes from Cazorla that made him 2nd best.

Ramsey at present is doing the job we needed Song or Frimpong to do, chasing down, mopping up and giving us some needed steel in the team, he's got an engine that lasts all game and is one of the most important parts of our midfield atm, so much so I think he's outshining Arteta on occasions.

Wilshere has got a long way to go before he gets enough form back to be so important right now, hoping he does but its not there yet.

[Arsenal~Fanatic]

There is a reason why Wilshere would command over 40m quid if decide to sell him tomorrow and Ramsey would struggle to fetch a third of that.

[Kyle?]

There is a reason why Wilshere would command over 40m quid if decide to sell him tomorrow and Ramsey would struggle to fetch a third of that.

Because Wilshere in English and seen as the saviour of the English team, and Ramsey is just a "dumb sheep-sh*gger"

(It's not racist or xenophobic, i'm Welsh)

[Leody]

Because Jack is more marketable and would sell shirts? And Aaron is Welsh and not as popular?

[JohnDuval]

are we actually comparing wilshere and Ramsey? Really? Some of you lot have to watch some of our games mid last season again

[Arsenal~Fanatic]

Because Jack is more marketable and would sell shirts? And Aaron is Welsh and not as popular?

Wilshere is easily twice the play Ramsey is. Its funny how a decent run of form has clouded people's judgement. For me Wilshere is a complete midfielder one who has the ability to grab a game by its b*lls and dictate it.

[JohnDuval]

Because Jack is more marketable and would sell shirts? And Aaron is Welsh and not as popular?

Wilshere is easily twice the play Ramsey is.

Easily, but Ramsey and arteta compliment each other well at the moment, there will come a time when wilshere will be too good for the bench either that or he develops well as a cam

[Kyle?]

Because Jack is more marketable and would sell shirts? And Aaron is Welsh and not as popular?

Wilshere is easily twice the play Ramsey is. Its funny how a decent run of form has clouded people's judgement. For me Wilsher is a complete midfielder one who has the ability to grab a game by its b*lls and dictate it.

Or fall over and win a free kick instead of carrying on a good counter...

[Arsenal~Fanatic]

Wilshere when fit is probably the first name i would put on the team sheet.

[Kyle?]

Wilshere when fit is probably the first name i would put on the team sheet.

Rosicky for me.

[Massa]

Wilshere and Ramsey are on the same level for me.

[Est83]

Massa, no way is Ramsey`s vision better than Wilshere. He improved massively toward the end of last season, but that was more in maturity, positioning, game reading etc. His vision and direct passing has always lacked.

Do you know whose vision is better than both of theirs? Hint: it's not Rosicky or Cazorla.

Rosicky has the more superior vision in our squad, both in the intricate, direct through balls, and the long range counter plays. Others have better long range passing, but he sees the pass better than any midfielder we have.

You were probably talking about Arteta though.

[Massa]

Massa, no way is Ramsey`s vision better than Wilshere. He improved massively toward the end of last season, but that was more in maturity, positioning, game reading etc. His vision and direct passing has always lacked.

His vision has always been one of his best assets. He doesn't always execute the pass perfectly but he spots runs well and always tries the improbable pass. In terms of pure vision, Ramsey is better.